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strawberry icecream
10-05-2004, 10:56 AM
I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
posters recommend for the perfect climate?

This would also include having little danger of hurricanes, volcanic
activity, earthquakes, etc.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Earl Evleth
10-05-2004, 11:57 PM
On 10/05/04 1:33, in article Xns94E55A868B58fluffy@140.99.99.130,
"strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

> I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
> posters recommend for the perfect climate?
>
> This would also include having little danger of hurricanes, volcanic
> activity, earthquakes, etc.
>
> Any suggestions?
>

The whole region has the possibility of a hurricane, although I suspect
the very south area (Union to Grenada) might have, presently, fewer
incidents.

Volcanic problems are rarer than hurricanes. There are only a couple of
islands afflicted. Montserrat is notorious. Mount Pelée in Martinique
blew up in 1902 and only 2 out of 30000 people survived the disaster. Sounds
like a Hollywood movie. Otherwise there are no problems.

The weather and water supply are another problem, there are dry seasons and
the smaller islands have a constant water supply problem.

If one is an occasional visitor, one just does not plan on going to
the Caribbean in the hurricane season, which is mainly from August
on into the Fall.

There are no January hurricanes. Nor December, nor February, March
April, May etc. The problem is rather with rain is in the wet
season.

If one wishes to live there, that is another problem. Do you have
enough money and will they accept you? Personally, I have no particular
problem in having both US and French citizenship, so I could live
in the French islands (including the French side of Saint Martin)
without any formalities.

The French generally have no problem granting visas to retired people
of any nationality who want to live on French territory. To qualify you
have to have a private income and insure yourself for health coverage. No
beach bums, please!

But the US does not had out such visas even to the rich so I imagine
that a rich European could not just go to he American Virgins and
live.

Earl

Kurt Ullman
11-05-2004, 12:56 AM
In article <BCC5451E.33669%evleth@wanadoo.fr>, Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

>The whole region has the possibility of a hurricane, although I suspect
>the very south area (Union to Grenada) might have, presently, fewer
>incidents.

Arubans always remind us when we go that they are outside of the hurricane
area. Don't have any active volcanoes. The only problem would be the wind.


--------------------------------------------------------
"Writers even write the silences"
-J. Michael Straczynski

Earl Evleth
11-05-2004, 02:00 AM
On 10/05/04 15:08, in article
U8Lnc.14447$V97.13771@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Kurt Ullman"
<kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <BCC5451E.33669%evleth@wanadoo.fr>, Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> The whole region has the possibility of a hurricane, although I suspect
>> the very south area (Union to Grenada) might have, presently, fewer
>> incidents.
>
> Arubans always remind us when we go that they are outside of the hurricane
> area. Don't have any active volcanoes. The only problem would be the wind.
>
>


The 1990-1999 map of passage is given at

http://stormcarib.com/climatology/ecar_isl.htm

It shows a lot more passing to the north

However in the prior decades a lot more passed through the south.

The spread was very even in 1930-39, for instance.

The trajectories of the storms may have changed to. Looking at
1890-99 some essentially went nearly North South instead of east
west into the Gulf of Mexico.(before sometimes heading north
to hit Œthe US).

Why the change? No idea. If anybody knows anything they can inform us.

For the period 1990-99 the Monthly sequence was

giving the date, wind, category and name.

25 Jul 1990 60 ts ARTHUR
14 Aug 1990 35 ts FRAN
5 Oct 1990 70 h1 KLAUS
7 Aug 1993 50 ts BRET
14 Aug 1993 35 ts CINDY
10 Sep 1994 60 ts DEBBY
13 Jul 1995 30 td CHANTAL
28 Aug 1995 60 ts IRIS
5 Sep 1995 125 h4 LUIS
16 Sep 1995 95 h2 MARILYN
23 Oct 1995 40 ts SEBASTIEN
9 Jul 1996 80 h1 BERTHA
25 Jul 1996 30 td CESAR
9 Sep 1996 70 h1 HORTENSE
6 Sep 1997 75 h1 ERIKA
21 Aug 1998 50 ts BONNIE
21 Sep 1998 100 h3 GEORGES
20 Oct 1999 85 h2 JOSE
17 Nov 1999 130 h4 LENNY


Since the storms are given birth off the African coast when sea temperatures
pass a certain threshold, these conditions usually are met until late July
on. A lot of storms are given birth too and then peter out. A very few
continue to gather strength and continue on across the Atlanic.

The above web site is fairly informative.

Earl

Allodoxaphobia
11-05-2004, 04:57 AM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 13:08:04 GMT, Kurt Ullman hath writ:
> In article <BCC5451E.33669%evleth@wanadoo.fr>, Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
>>The whole region has the possibility of a hurricane, although I suspect
>>the very south area (Union to Grenada) might have, presently, fewer
>>incidents.
>
> Arubans always remind us when we go that they are outside of the hurricane
> area. Don't have any active volcanoes. The only problem would be the wind.

Don't complain about the wind. Without it both the humidity _and_ the
mosquitoes rise to intolerable levels.

Earl Evleth
11-05-2004, 04:57 AM
On 10/05/04 19:06, in article
slrnc9vdle.2ivq.bit-bucket@localhost.config.com, "Allodoxaphobia"
<bit-bucket@config.com> wrote:

> Don't complain about the wind. Without it both the humidity _and_ the
> mosquitoes rise to intolerable levels.


And sailing, don't forget the sailing! For those who are simple minded
sailors, the Caribbean has manageable winds. One wants some, not too much
nor too little, and there are plenty of spots for easy sailing, like in
BVI.

I can be seen standing at the helm at

http://homepage.mac.com/evleth/PhotoAlbum7.html

Look at that lovely beach (photo 4, the photos can be
clicked for enlargement). The beach on on the south
shore of Saint Martin.

My daughter is actually the skipper so the "capitan"
bit a family joke. I actually wash the dishes.

But the photos make you want to GO THERE NOW?

If you can "do it".

Earl

Rhythmwize
11-05-2004, 04:57 AM
In article <BCC5451E.33669%evleth@wanadoo.fr>, Earl Evleth says...
>
>The whole region has the possibility of a hurricane, although I suspect
>the very south area (Union to Grenada) might have, presently, fewer
>incidents.

Its my understanding Trinidad has been free of a direct hit by a hurricane
although Tobago took a big hit in 1963 and they are only a short distance to the
north.


>Volcanic problems are rarer than hurricanes. There are only a couple of
>islands afflicted. Montserrat is notorious. Mount Pelée in Martinique
>blew up in 1902 and only 2 out of 30000 people survived the disaster. Sounds
>like a Hollywood movie. Otherwise there are no problems.

There have been problems with earthquakes. A massive earthquake hit Port Royal
Jamaica in 1692 killing 2000 people and there have been others. Any volcanic
island, read lush green islands with mountains, represents a region with a
potential for earthquakes.

john

Brian K
11-05-2004, 05:57 AM
On 05/10/2004 1:19 PM Rhythmwize plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger
and said:

>In article <BCC5451E.33669%evleth@wanadoo.fr>, Earl Evleth says...
>
>
>>The whole region has the possibility of a hurricane, although I suspect
>>the very south area (Union to Grenada) might have, presently, fewer
>>incidents.
>>
>>
>
>Its my understanding Trinidad has been free of a direct hit by a hurricane
>although Tobago took a big hit in 1963 and they are only a short distance to the
>north.
>
>
>
>
>>Volcanic problems are rarer than hurricanes. There are only a couple of
>>islands afflicted. Montserrat is notorious. Mount Pelée in Martinique
>>blew up in 1902 and only 2 out of 30000 people survived the disaster. Sounds
>>like a Hollywood movie. Otherwise there are no problems.
>>
>>
>
>There have been problems with earthquakes. A massive earthquake hit Port Royal
>Jamaica in 1692 killing 2000 people and there have been others. Any volcanic
>island, read lush green islands with mountains, represents a region with a
>potential for earthquakes.
>
>john
>
>
>
In regards to hurricanes, refer to Key West. In the RC Church, Our Lady
of Knock on Truman Ave is a shrine to a Nun. This nun was one of the
sole survivor of a killer hurricane in the 1930's. She had lashed
herself to the church steeple of the former Our Lady of Knock church.
While the island was awash she rang the church bell to let any survivors
know that it was above the tidal surge. After the water and storm
subsided she said a prayer of thanks for her own survival. She also
prayed that Key West would never be visited with such devastation. To
this day a hurricane eye has never passed over Key West. There has
never been a dramatic loss of life due to hurricane in Key West since
the Key West Nun prayed for it's protection. If you have to be anywhere
suseptable to these storms during hurricane season, make it Key West.
Be sure to stop by Our Lady of Knock and say a prayer to the Key West Nun.

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CapeGuy
11-05-2004, 06:56 AM
"strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94E55A868B58fluffy@140.99.99.130...
> I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
> posters recommend for the perfect climate?
>
I wouldn't want to live there, nor do I feel compelled
to visit there as a tourist, but, IMHO, San Diego has
the perfect climate. I think they're also somewhat south
of the major earthquake zones in California, but I'm
not as sure about that part.

DDupin
11-05-2004, 07:56 AM
Yeah but San Diego has some water shortage problems. And brush fires again last
week.
But the temperature seems to be ideal.
I've read that some places in the mountains of Mexico and Costa Rica enjoy
year-round springtime. However, I believe there's some worry about earthquakes
there.



<< Subject: Re: Caribbean - the perfect climate?
From: "CapeGuy" brightfan@cape.us >>


<< "strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94E55A868B58fluffy@140.99.99.130...
> I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
> posters recommend for the perfect climate?
>
I wouldn't want to live there, nor do I feel compelled
to visit there as a tourist, but, IMHO, San Diego has
the perfect climate. I think they're also somewhat south
of the major earthquake zones in California, but I'm
not as sure about that part.

>>

Rhythmwize
11-05-2004, 10:56 AM
In article <20040510165237.17730.00001316@mb-m16.aol.com>, DDupin says...
>
>But the temperature seems to be ideal.

In San Diego, the winter months average high is about 66F...thats about 10 to
15F below my ideal. Perhaps farther south down to the tip of Baja California
would be getting close. San Diego has wild fires and the potential for deadly
earthquakes. It can also get above 100F in the summer and below freezing in the
winter on rare occasions. I don't believe there is a place on earth with an
ideal climate and no major natural hazards.

john

fradybunch
11-05-2004, 10:56 PM
The ABC islands (Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao) are outside the hurricane belt. On
our trip to Curacao, I COULD BREATHE! As a person who has had sinus trouble
my whole life, being able to breathe was a whole vacation in itself.
Curacao is a very dry island. I believe this is the perfect climate, but
then I like heat, and not humidity. No volcanos (AFAIK) and no tornados.
(And great snorkleing!)

Sandi

Yaofeng
12-05-2004, 03:01 AM
Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:<BCC5451E.33669%evleth@wanadoo.fr>...
> On 10/05/04 1:33, in article Xns94E55A868B58fluffy@140.99.99.130,
> "strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
> > posters recommend for the perfect climate?
> >
> > This would also include having little danger of hurricanes, volcanic
> > activity, earthquakes, etc.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
>

Aruba has be a leading candidate. No hurricane, temperature
consistently in the 80's year round. There is no need for weather
forecast. It is sunny everyday.

But too much sunshine makes a desert. Aruba is almost desert like.

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 09:57 AM
On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:33:29 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
>posters recommend for the perfect climate?
>
>This would also include having little danger of hurricanes, volcanic
>activity, earthquakes, etc.
>
>Any suggestions?

Turks and Caicos.

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 09:57 AM
kurtullman@yahoo.com (Kurt Ullman) wrote in
news:U8Lnc.14447$V97.13771@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

>
> Arubans always remind us when we go that they are outside of the
> hurricane
> area. Don't have any active volcanoes. The only problem would be the
> wind.


because it is VERY windy...or just because it is a HOT wind?

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 09:57 AM
Earl Evleth wrote:

> http://stormcarib.com/climatology/ecar_isl.htm


wow, very informative maps, Earl.

Thanks for this link!

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 09:57 AM
Allodoxaphobia wrote:

> Don't complain about the wind. Without it both the humidity _and_ the
> mosquitoes rise to intolerable levels.


I was expecting loads of bug problems when I was in St Lucia in February.
I had never really been to a buggy country before...here in Britain, i
always get attacked my midges and stuff.

But I was amazed to find that the bugs all stayed away from me in St Lucia.
A guest at the same villa did have loads of problems beside me.

I can't even honestly say that I know what a mosquito looks like. Invisble?

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 10:00 AM
Rhythmwize <Rhythmwize_member@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:c7odjd02i6l@drn.newsguy.com:

> Its my understanding Trinidad has been free of a direct hit by a
> hurricane although Tobago took a big hit in 1963 and they are only a
> short distance to the north.

so even those southern islands still have a risk of getting a hit.

I looked at home insurance costs in the caribbean...and in the main
hurricane belt, it is anywhere from 2 to 4 thousaad dollars per average
western style villa. But down south, say below and including st lucia, it
is about 500 to 1000 dollars.



> There have been problems with earthquakes. A massive earthquake hit
> Port Royal Jamaica in 1692 killing 2000 people and there have been
> others. Any volcanic island, read lush green islands with mountains,
> represents a region with a potential for earthquakes.


the soufriere volcano exists in st lucia....famous 'drive in' volcano

Anyone know how far is a *safe distance* to have a house from such a
volcano? I looked at villas on the east coast...which muct be about 8 to
10 miles from the volcano, which is on the far west coast. Is that a safe
distance? Apologies if I am asking a stupid question. But volcanoes are a
new thing to someone like me from the UK.

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 10:00 AM
Brian K <brianxt1951@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:i3Qnc.5166$KE6.5046@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:

> Be sure to stop by Our Lady of Knock and say a prayer to the Key West
> Nun.

wonderful story, Brian!

I've always been drawn to the keys...amazing imagary...much of it inspired
by Hemingway.

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 10:00 AM
ychen@bmwe30.net (Yaofeng) wrote in news:e89d1e3e.0405110800.1e3fa5f0
@posting.google.com:

>
> Aruba has be a leading candidate. No hurricane, temperature
> consistently in the 80's year round. There is no need for weather
> forecast. It is sunny everyday.
>
> But too much sunshine makes a desert. Aruba is almost desert like.
>

THAT is the same conclusion that I came to.

Just too much like an arid, lifeless, desert.

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 10:57 AM
"CapeGuy" <brightfan@cape.us> wrote in news:AJQnc.18442$hY.8961
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

> "strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns94E55A868B58fluffy@140.99.99.130...
>> I was wondering where in the Caribbean (or anywhere in the world) would
>> posters recommend for the perfect climate?
>>
> I wouldn't want to live there, nor do I feel compelled
> to visit there as a tourist, but, IMHO, San Diego has
> the perfect climate. I think they're also somewhat south
> of the major earthquake zones in California, but I'm
> not as sure about that part.


yes....my joint favourite cities that I have been to in the world, are
Edinburgh and San Francisco. I just adore SF. But of course there is the
small matter of the fault line. :(

I went down that coast...was in 1996......hated LA. But everyone told me
that SD was the place to go....best climate in the USA they said. But I
never made it to SD. :(

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 10:57 AM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:53:06 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>I had never really been to a buggy country before...here in Britain, i
>always get attacked my midges and stuff.

You get attacked by midgets? Picadilly Circus?

"Mother Goose, so I turned her loose as she was screaming.
Really true there are elephants, lions too in Picadilly circus"

Now midgets attacking?

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 10:57 AM
Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ljm2a09oc5od4krj3lq3i7qs67tik5dqk5@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:53:06 GMT, strawberry icecream
> <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
>>I had never really been to a buggy country before...here in Britain, i
>>always get attacked my midges and stuff.
>
> You get attacked by midgets? Picadilly Circus?
>
> "Mother Goose, so I turned her loose as she was screaming.
> Really true there are elephants, lions too in Picadilly circus"
>
> Now midgets attacking?


LOL at the imagary


Nah, over in northern UK...Scotland and Ireland, we have these wee
things called 'midges'

I think they also have another name...but I can't recall it at present.

They come out around sunset in the summer time, for an hour or two.
They are tiny...invisible....you can feel them bite your neck and scalp.

They are pretty unbearable. Many people complain that they are far
worse than mosquitos. But I have no way of comparing, since I have yet
to bump into a mosquito.

Rosalie B.
12-05-2004, 11:56 AM
strawberry icecream <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:ljm2a09oc5od4krj3lq3i7qs67tik5dqk5@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:53:06 GMT, strawberry icecream
>> <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I had never really been to a buggy country before...here in Britain, i
>>>always get attacked my midges and stuff.
>>
>> You get attacked by midgets? Picadilly Circus?
>>
>> "Mother Goose, so I turned her loose as she was screaming.
>> Really true there are elephants, lions too in Picadilly circus"
>>
>> Now midgets attacking?
>
>
>LOL at the imagary
>
>
>Nah, over in northern UK...Scotland and Ireland, we have these wee
>things called 'midges'
>
>I think they also have another name...but I can't recall it at present.
>
>They come out around sunset in the summer time, for an hour or two.
>They are tiny...invisible....you can feel them bite your neck and scalp.

Maybe you mean no-see-ums or gnats. In the Bahamas they have the
sunset/evening no-see-ums and they also have ones that are out in the
daytime too. No-see-ums can go through regular screening.
>
>They are pretty unbearable. Many people complain that they are far
>worse than mosquitos. But I have no way of comparing, since I have yet
>to bump into a mosquito.

Mosquitos (just the females which are the only ones that bite) make a
whining noise. Very high frequency noise-if you have a noise induced
hearing loss, you might not be able to hear them. They are also
mostly out at night.

There is no place in the world that has a perfect climate. Hurricanes
or other similar storms occur everywhere. And if there aren't
hurricanes there are tornados. Earthquakes and volcanos (which are
associated with the same geological features) are mainly around the
fault lines, but you can have earthquakes in the eastern and southern
USA - they aren't restricted to California. Some places are too cold,
some places are too hot. Some are too wet and some are too dry. Some
are too humid, some are too foggy, some are too windy etc etc.

The best you can do is decide what is an acceptable risk for you and
go for it. IMHO the cost of living and the medical care are at least
equally important when deciding where to live.

So if I were doing it, I would ignore the volcanic origin of the BVI -
I don't think it is a real threat. Hurricanes OTOH would be.

If I were going to spend extended time there, I might consider Belize
- the highlands do not have bug problems - don't have screens just
like London. And they speak English and it's relatively volcano free
and the hurricanes are not very frequent, especially inland.

Bermuda is lovely, but they do have storms (c.f. The Tempest by
Shakespeare which is about Bermuda). They are non-volcanic in origin
but it's expensive to live there. It's more of a temperate climate
rather than tropical.
grandma Rosalie

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 12:56 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:17:53 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>> Now midgets attacking?
>
>
>LOL at the imagary
>
>
>Nah, over in northern UK...Scotland and Ireland, we have these wee
>things called 'midges'
>
>I think they also have another name...but I can't recall it at present.

Pygmies? Yee little ones? Short People? Stunts? Vertically Challenged?
Kneeknockers?

>They come out around sunset in the summer time, for an hour or two.
>They are tiny...invisible....you can feel them bite your neck and scalp.

Yeah, midget ghosts...

>They are pretty unbearable. Many people complain that they are far
>worse than mosquitos. But I have no way of comparing, since I have yet
>to bump into a mosquito.

Far worse. Midgets are mean, nasty and know circus tricks.

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 12:56 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:14:24 GMT, Rosalie B.
<gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Maybe you mean no-see-ums or gnats. In the Bahamas they have the
>sunset/evening no-see-ums and they also have ones that are out in the
>daytime too. No-see-ums can go through regular screening.

Midgets can do that too?

Damn, where have I been?

>Mosquitos (just the females which are the only ones that bite) make a
>whining noise. Very high frequency noise-if you have a noise induced
>hearing loss, you might not be able to hear them. They are also
>mostly out at night.

Like vampire midgets.

>The best you can do is decide what is an acceptable risk for you and
>go for it. IMHO the cost of living and the medical care are at least
>equally important when deciding where to live.

Yeah but who wants to live where midgets attack and ooze thru door
screens?

>If I were going to spend extended time there, I might consider Belize
>- the highlands do not have bug problems - don't have screens just
>like London. And they speak English..

They also speak that secret, scary circus lingo....and they know
CLOWNS!!!!!!!!

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 12:56 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:14:12 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>> Turks and Caicos.
>
>
>aren't hurricanes a major problem for the turks and caico islands?

I think the last hurri to hit there, of any size or damage, was the
early 80's. Lucky or geography?

>It is also VERY expensive.....120 dollars to eat out....so i was told.

Naw, there are many cheaper places than that and the Provo beach is
absolutely superb.

And NO midgets.

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 01:58 PM
Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ogv2a0tk6qm7l4sgt7m4ofb9ru9k4mu4ti@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:14:24 GMT, Rosalie B.
> <gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Maybe you mean no-see-ums or gnats. In the Bahamas they have the
>>sunset/evening no-see-ums and they also have ones that are out in the
>>daytime too. No-see-ums can go through regular screening.
>
> Midgets can do that too?
>
> Damn, where have I been?
>
>>Mosquitos (just the females which are the only ones that bite) make a
>>whining noise. Very high frequency noise-if you have a noise induced
>>hearing loss, you might not be able to hear them. They are also
>>mostly out at night.
>
> Like vampire midgets.
>
>>The best you can do is decide what is an acceptable risk for you and
>>go for it. IMHO the cost of living and the medical care are at least
>>equally important when deciding where to live.
>
> Yeah but who wants to live where midgets attack and ooze thru door
> screens?
>
>>If I were going to spend extended time there, I might consider Belize
>>- the highlands do not have bug problems - don't have screens just
>>like London. And they speak English..
>
> They also speak that secret, scary circus lingo....and they know
> CLOWNS!!!!!!!!


are you on drugs? ;)

the word used was 'midges'........'midges' are a tiny insect that the
Scots and Irish have to put up with in the summer time, for a couple of
hours around sunset.

I don't believe that this insect is to be found elsewhere in the world.

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 01:58 PM
Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:4cv2a0lssqv7levfvd0ao1oefd88ktf36i@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:17:53 GMT, strawberry icecream
> <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Now midgets attacking?
>>
>>
>>LOL at the imagary
>>
>>
>>Nah, over in northern UK...Scotland and Ireland, we have these wee
>>things called 'midges'
>>
>>I think they also have another name...but I can't recall it at present.
>
> Pygmies? Yee little ones? Short People? Stunts? Vertically Challenged?
> Kneeknockers?
>
>>They come out around sunset in the summer time, for an hour or two.
>>They are tiny...invisible....you can feel them bite your neck and scalp.
>
> Yeah, midget ghosts...
>
>>They are pretty unbearable. Many people complain that they are far
>>worse than mosquitos. But I have no way of comparing, since I have yet
>>to bump into a mosquito.
>
> Far worse. Midgets are mean, nasty and know circus tricks.


<<yawn>>

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 01:58 PM
Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vmv2a0pd98rq08j5muou8f401dn98h5bh2@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:14:12 GMT, strawberry icecream
> <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Turks and Caicos.
>>
>>
>>aren't hurricanes a major problem for the turks and caico islands?
>
> I think the last hurri to hit there, of any size or damage, was the
> early 80's. Lucky or geography?



>>It is also VERY expensive.....120 dollars to eat out....so i was told.
>
> Naw, there are many cheaper places than that and the Provo beach is
> absolutely superb.

the images look amazing.

But the realtor gave me a rundown on average living costs....eating out,
home insurance, water costs, electricity, phone etc.....VERY expensive.

During the hurricane season, if there is any threat at all, the place
often closes down.



> And NO midgets.

<rolling eyes>

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 01:58 PM
Rosalie B. <gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:kbq2a0lssskn8re9arhcacquvk05tfd013@4ax.com:

> strawberry icecream <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
>>Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>news:ljm2a09oc5od4krj3lq3i7qs67tik5dqk5@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:53:06 GMT, strawberry icecream
>>> <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I had never really been to a buggy country before...here in Britain,
>>>>i always get attacked my midges and stuff.
>>>
>>> You get attacked by midgets? Picadilly Circus?
>>>
>>> "Mother Goose, so I turned her loose as she was screaming.
>>> Really true there are elephants, lions too in Picadilly circus"
>>>
>>> Now midgets attacking?
>>
>>
>>LOL at the imagary
>>
>>
>>Nah, over in northern UK...Scotland and Ireland, we have these wee
>>things called 'midges'
>>
>>I think they also have another name...but I can't recall it at
>>present.
>>
>>They come out around sunset in the summer time, for an hour or two.
>>They are tiny...invisible....you can feel them bite your neck and
>>scalp.
>
> Maybe you mean no-see-ums or gnats. In the Bahamas they have the
> sunset/evening no-see-ums and they also have ones that are out in the
> daytime too. No-see-ums can go through regular screening.
>>
>>They are pretty unbearable. Many people complain that they are far
>>worse than mosquitos. But I have no way of comparing, since I have
>>yet to bump into a mosquito.


no, over here in the UK...well northern UK, we have this incsect called
the midge.

do a search in google for it....using Scotland and midge

or take a look at:

http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/blknow21.htm




> Mosquitos (just the females which are the only ones that bite) make a
> whining noise. Very high frequency noise-if you have a noise induced
> hearing loss, you might not be able to hear them. They are also
> mostly out at night.


that noise rings a bell.....I did hear such a noise one night when in
bed in st lucia.

It was a noise that was buzzing round my head.




> There is no place in the world that has a perfect climate. Hurricanes
> or other similar storms occur everywhere.

to my knowledge, we've never had any hurricane here where I live....very
north coast of Ireland.




> And if there aren't
> hurricanes there are tornados.


not over here.




> Earthquakes and volcanos (which are
> associated with the same geological features) are mainly around the
> fault lines, but you can have earthquakes in the eastern and southern
> USA - they aren't restricted to California. Some places are too cold,
> some places are too hot. Some are too wet and some are too dry. Some
> are too humid, some are too foggy, some are too windy etc etc.

ah come on....be a bit more optimistic than that.

there must be some corner of the world where you have been, where u have
been tickled by its location/features.




> The best you can do is decide what is an acceptable risk for you and
> go for it. IMHO the cost of living and the medical care are at least
> equally important when deciding where to live.

very true.




> If I were going to spend extended time there, I might consider Belize
> - the highlands do not have bug problems - don't have screens just
> like London. And they speak English and it's relatively volcano free
> and the hurricanes are not very frequent, especially inland.

I did consider Belize...interesting country.



> Bermuda is lovely, but they do have storms (c.f. The Tempest by
> Shakespeare which is about Bermuda). They are non-volcanic in origin
> but it's expensive to live there. It's more of a temperate climate
> rather than tropical.


I do like the southern islands inthe caribbean....just below hurricane
belt....grenadines and tobago...and also Bequia....heavenly.

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 02:00 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:33:31 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>> Yeah but who wants to live where midgets attack and ooze thru door
>> screens?
>>
>>>If I were going to spend extended time there, I might consider Belize
>>>- the highlands do not have bug problems - don't have screens just
>>>like London. And they speak English..
>>
>> They also speak that secret, scary circus lingo....and they know
>> CLOWNS!!!!!!!!
>
>
>are you on drugs? ;)
>
>the word used was 'midges'........'midges' are a tiny insect that the
>Scots and Irish have to put up with in the summer time, for a couple of
>hours around sunset.

oops

>I don't believe that this insect is to be found elsewhere in the world.

thankthelord

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 02:56 PM
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:33:39 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>> Pygmies? Yee little ones? Short People? Stunts? Vertically Challenged?
>> Kneeknockers?
>>
>>>They come out around sunset in the summer time, for an hour or two.
>>>They are tiny...invisible....you can feel them bite your neck and scalp.
>>
>> Yeah, midget ghosts...
>>
>>>They are pretty unbearable. Many people complain that they are far
>>>worse than mosquitos. But I have no way of comparing, since I have yet
>>>to bump into a mosquito.
>>
>> Far worse. Midgets are mean, nasty and know circus tricks.
>
>
><<yawn>>

Yawn? Wait till you have one of those little suckers eat the toe nail
paint off you.

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 02:56 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:36:55 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>the images look amazing.
>
>But the realtor gave me a rundown on average living costs....eating out,

Eat in.

>home insurance,

Buy a condo.

> water costs,

Drink Gatorade.

>electricity,

Use candles.

> phone..

Email.

>During the hurricane season, if there is any threat at all, the place
>often closes down.

read a book under candlelight.

>> And NO midgets.
>
><rolling eyes>

Lots of CLOWNS!!!!

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 02:56 PM
Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ss43a0lk1m80rjv1dljlid3qo0khc95jv3@4ax.com:

>><<yawn>>
>
> Yawn? Wait till you have one of those little suckers eat the toe nail
> paint off you.
>


enough...enough.

I surrender....I come in peace...please, no more midget jokes!


<warm friendly smile>

strawberry icecream
12-05-2004, 02:56 PM
Cruising Chrissy <doublebreasted@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ev43a0pjmosbrma6ul5l8hgrfen552vjs3@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:36:55 GMT, strawberry icecream
> <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
>>the images look amazing.
>>
>>But the realtor gave me a rundown on average living costs....eating
>>out,
>
> Eat in.


island food imports are always expensive


>>home insurance,
>
> Buy a condo.

nearly as bad



>>electricity,
>
> Use candles.

greater insurance risk...hence even higher premiums



>> phone..
>
> Email.

that means getting internet access...costs an arm and a leg




>>During the hurricane season, if there is any threat at all, the place
>>often closes down.
>
> read a book under candlelight.

hurricane blows candles out




>>> And NO midgets.
>>
>><rolling eyes>
>
> Lots of CLOWNS!!!!

they get blown into the lions cage and eaten for supper.

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 02:56 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 03:07:14 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>enough...enough.
>
>I surrender....I come in peace...please, no more midget jokes!
>
>
><warm friendly smile>

ok

<cold, painted face, cirsusfake smile with teeth too big for mouth>

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2DC13648

Cruising Chrissy
12-05-2004, 02:56 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 03:11:01 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>> Eat in.
>
>
>island food imports are always expensive

Grow your own.

>
>>>home insurance,
>>
>> Buy a condo.
>
>nearly as bad

Rent.

>>>electricity,
>>
>> Use candles.
>
>greater insurance risk...hence even higher premiums

Flashlights using solar batteries.

>>> phone..
>>
>> Email.
>
>that means getting internet access...costs an arm and a leg

Cable and Wireless = $19.95 per month. Your arms and legs are much
cheaper than mine.

>>>During the hurricane season, if there is any threat at all, the place
>>>often closes down.
>>
>> read a book under candlelight.
>
>hurricane blows candles out

Sex.

>>>> And NO midgets.
>>>
>>><rolling eyes>
>>
>> Lots of CLOWNS!!!!
>
>they get blown into the lions cage and eaten for supper.

GOOD.

Earl Evleth
12-05-2004, 06:57 PM
On 12/05/04 0:46, in article Xns94E6F1CDE1E4Cfluffy@140.99.99.130,
"strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

> thanks for the response.
>
> Yes...you have nailed the main issues.
>
> I am in the UK...so much of the caribbean is accessible...many old and
> existing british colonies etc.
>
> I do love the images of the British Virgin Islands and the DR.
> Monserrat is by all accounts awesome...but again, it is volcanic and
> prone to hurricanes.
>
> But for me, one has to go further south, to avoid the main hurricanes.

The BVI has been in the pathway quite a few times in recent years.
Having never been through one of these storms I can not pooh pooh
them. Obviously having a place near the shore which can be reached
by the tidal surge is a big problem. The islands also get "burnt"
with a passage of a storm, the depositing of a lot of salt spray
damages the vegetation until rain fall washes some of the salt away.
The natural vegetation is "use" to this kind abuse but is does occur.

Yet in our many visits to the BVI over the years (we were there last
year) I have never noted unusual damage to the island. The island
group has relatively high mountains, and Virgin Gorda bay looks
inordinately well protected. Others will have to comment on whether
that is true. On Saint Martin, one hotel complex on the south
end is still in ruins from a storm 10 years ago.


Most of the islands "lack" airports capable of receiving flights
from North America or Europe. BVI is one but St Lucia now has
air service with North America and Britain. Cruise boats
also bring in a number of visitors which can be disconcerting
on some days.

> I was in St Lucia a few months ago, and it looks really nice.
>
> Ideally, to avoid hurricanes, one needs to move a few hundred miles
> below St Lucia....the Grenadines, Tobago etc.
>
> I am particarly sold on Tobago. But it is fairly remote and not much to
> do on the island.
>
> The ABC islands, Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao (spelling?), look really
> nice. But Aruba looks too hot and desert like for my taste. Curacao
> looks beautiful...but water supply seems to be an issue.
>
> By the way, does anyone know if all the caribben islands essentially
> close down for those months of the hurricane season..or do tourists
> still come and rent villas?
>
> Thanks again to all who responded to this thread. It is great to get s
> much guidance and advice.
>

Judging from what you said you prefer St. Lucia. I personally would opt for
as large an island as possible which has a minimum number of tourists.
We sail boated out of Union and the reef problem is fierce, the boat
radio was reporting non-stop on people hanging up on them and requesting
to be dragged off. The smaller islands are really dry, a severe water
problem sometimes of the year.

Earl

mtbchip
13-05-2004, 05:56 AM
in article Xns94E7264F300Efluffy@140.99.99.130, strawberry icecream at
spamproof@foo.com wrote on 5/11/04 4:14 PM:

>
>
> aren't hurricanes a major problem for the turks and caico islands?
>
> It is also VERY expensive.....120 dollars to eat out....so i was told.
TCI have not had a landfall of a major storm in years. They see the storms
march by to the north where they batter the out islands of the Bahamas.

As far as cost to eat....... Well, it varies like anywhere else. Your
assumption is like thinking all restaurants in USA are Ruth's Chris Steak
house. Not the case. Your typical meal per person would be $18-25 pp, and
that is a nice meal at Tiki Hut or Shark Bite in Turtle cove (Provo). TCI
is one fine place to go esp if you dive. Boring topside. But that is NOT
what I seek, but other do.

Grace Bay is one fine place to be!

Mtbchip

Earl Evleth
13-05-2004, 05:56 PM
On 12/05/04 20:14, in article BCC7B779.1EB3B%mtbchip@cox.net, "mtbchip"
<mtbchip@cox.net> wrote:

> in article Xns94E7264F300Efluffy@140.99.99.130, strawberry icecream at
> spamproof@foo.com wrote on 5/11/04 4:14 PM:
>
>>
>>
>> aren't hurricanes a major problem for the turks and caico islands?
>>
>> It is also VERY expensive.....120 dollars to eat out....so i was told.
> TCI have not had a landfall of a major storm in years. They see the storms
> march by to the north where they batter the out islands of the Bahamas.
>
> As far as cost to eat....... Well, it varies like anywhere else. Your
> assumption is like thinking all restaurants in USA are Ruth's Chris Steak
> house. Not the case. Your typical meal per person would be $18-25 pp, and
> that is a nice meal at Tiki Hut or Shark Bite in Turtle cove (Provo). TCI
> is one fine place to go esp if you dive. Boring topside. But that is NOT
> what I seek, but other do.
>
> Grace Bay is one fine place to be!
>

I generally find the food in the Caribbean not too good.

The French side of Saint Martin, up in Grande Case, has some good places,
however. When traveling from Paris to the BVI to sail we usually stop in
Saint Martin for about a week to ward off jet lag and not spoil the sailing.
Then we go to the BVI, which for me is a bit of a desert food wise. We have
not sailed in the Grenadines for years but the food was not great there
either.

Actually some of the "native places" on the islands are "better" and much
cheaper (like $5 not $50)! I happen to like barbecue ribs (something which
is not generally found in France). Some of the islands have obviously
two economies, one for the natives, one for the tourists.

Earl

mtbchip
14-05-2004, 12:57 AM
On 5/12/04 11:46 PM, in article BCC8E660.33BDC%evleth@wanadoo.fr, "Earl
Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Actually some of the "native places" on the islands are "better" and much
> cheaper (like $5 not $50)! I happen to like barbecue ribs (something which
> is not generally found in France). Some of the islands have obviously
> two economies, one for the natives, one for the tourists.
>
> Earl
So true internationally..... I think they call it "kamahina discount" in
Hawaii

strawberry icecream
14-05-2004, 02:00 AM
Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in

> I generally find the food in the Caribbean not too good.
>
> The French side of Saint Martin, up in Grande Case, has some good
> places, however. When traveling from Paris to the BVI to sail we
> usually stop in Saint Martin for about a week to ward off jet lag and
> not spoil the sailing. Then we go to the BVI, which for me is a bit of
> a desert food wise. We have not sailed in the Grenadines for years
> but the food was not great there either.
>
> Actually some of the "native places" on the islands are "better" and
> much cheaper (like $5 not $50)! I happen to like barbecue ribs
> (something which is not generally found in France). Some of the
> islands have obviously two economies, one for the natives, one for the
> tourists.


totally agree.

I honestly couldn't look at some of the food when I was in the
caribbean.

I picked up a bug half way through my vacation.......and I had to
remakin close to a loo for days.

The chicken and meat even looks different from what we get in the west.

I suspect that they use a lot more of the animal than we do.

I was almost going to venture into the one Kentucky Fried Chicken on the
island that I was on, to see if their chicken looked the same as the
strange chicken i was seeing elsewhere on the island.

Earl Evleth
14-05-2004, 04:57 AM
On 13/05/04 16:58, in article Xns94E8A279319Afluffy@140.99.99.130,
"strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:


>
> I picked up a bug half way through my vacation.......and I had to
> remakin close to a loo for days.

Not an uncommon experience. In fact the usual one. I never have
any problem in the US, throughout Europe and the Caribbean now,
immune I guess. I got some in Egypt once that lasted three years.
But I had no problems in the Far East either.

> The chicken and meat even looks different from what we get in the west.

Russia in the old days was mystery meat time at every meal.

> I suspect that they use a lot more of the animal than we do.

Possibly the most nutritious parts! At one time in the US Southern
Blacks more nutritiously fed than poor whites since the "throwaway" portions
of the animal are better for you! Who eats brains in the US now?

> I was almost going to venture into the one Kentucky Fried Chicken on the
> island that I was on, to see if their chicken looked the same as the
> strange chicken i was seeing elsewhere on the island.

Depends on what they eat. In France the chickens that are allowed to
run free and chase bugs command a higher price in the market than
the factory raised ones which have zero muscle tone, flabby and
without taste. I will admit that garbage raised chickens
might present a health risk! Pigs too.

Earl

Rhythmwize
14-05-2004, 05:57 AM
In article <Xns94E8A279319Afluffy@140.99.99.130>, strawberry icecream says...
>
>I picked up a bug half way through my vacation.......and I had to
>remakin close to a loo for days.

No need to ruin your vacation...if you had a carried Cipro(antibiotic),you could
have knocked that bug out in 24hrs or less.

You can get Cipro on the internet without a prescription for about $100.

I always take a supply as a precaution so I dont spoil at least part of
a $5000 vacation..plus you don't have to worry so much about getting a bug,
knowing you have an antidote. In other words, you can have a rum drink with
ice in Trinidad without the worry that the bug in the ice will ruin your trip.

john

strawberry icecream
14-05-2004, 05:57 AM
Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
news:BCC97A16.33D17%evleth@wanadoo.fr:

> On 13/05/04 16:58, in article Xns94E8A279319Afluffy@140.99.99.130,
> "strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I picked up a bug half way through my vacation.......and I had to
>> remakin close to a loo for days.
>
> Not an uncommon experience. In fact the usual one. I never have
> any problem in the US, throughout Europe and the Caribbean now,
> immune I guess. I got some in Egypt once that lasted three years.
> But I had no problems in the Far East either.

yes. I was warned before I went to St Lucia, to be aware thatthe food
was pretty poor and to be careful of bugs.

But with that heat, it is nearly impossible to not have ice in one's
drinks....or eat local cuisine.




> Possibly the most nutritious parts! At one time in the US Southern
> Blacks more nutritiously fed than poor whites since the "throwaway"
> portions of the animal are better for you!

LOL

good point.




>> I was almost going to venture into the one Kentucky Fried Chicken on
>> the island that I was on, to see if their chicken looked the same as
>> the strange chicken i was seeing elsewhere on the island.
>
> Depends on what they eat. In France the chickens that are allowed to
> run free and chase bugs command a higher price in the market than
> the factory raised ones which have zero muscle tone, flabby and
> without taste. I will admit that garbage raised chickens
> might present a health risk! Pigs too.

A couple that I know were in Dominican Republic a while back and
foolishly decided to take a local family up on their offer of a meal.

The DR family probably went to a lot of trouble to cook the meal.....but
the vacationing couple, on seeing the meal, had to pretend they had
tummy bugs to get out of the meal.............turned out that local DR
folks eat the things that we throw away.

The family tucked into their meal and the sound of breaking bones was
constantly heard during the meal. The locals waste nothing...and the
chicken bones were crunched and eaten.

strawberry icecream
14-05-2004, 05:57 AM
Rhythmwize <Rhythmwize_member@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:c80btl0q0v@drn.newsguy.com:

> In article <Xns94E8A279319Afluffy@140.99.99.130>, strawberry icecream
> says...
>>
>>I picked up a bug half way through my vacation.......and I had to
>>remakin close to a loo for days.
>
> No need to ruin your vacation...if you had a carried
> Cipro(antibiotic),you could have knocked that bug out in 24hrs or
> less.
>
> You can get Cipro on the internet without a prescription for about
> $100.
>
> I always take a supply as a precaution so I dont spoil at least part
> of a $5000 vacation..plus you don't have to worry so much about
> getting a bug, knowing you have an antidote. In other words, you can
> have a rum drink with ice in Trinidad without the worry that the bug
> in the ice will ruin your trip.


John, thanks for the tip.

Wow, that drug sure costs a lot of money!!!!

Is it produced in central or south america by any chance!

;)

Rosalie B.
14-05-2004, 08:56 AM
strawberry icecream <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>Earl Evleth <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
>news:BCC97A16.33D17%evleth@wanadoo.fr:
>
>> On 13/05/04 16:58, in article Xns94E8A279319Afluffy@140.99.99.130,
>> "strawberry icecream" <spamproof@foo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I picked up a bug half way through my vacation.......and I had to
>>> remakin close to a loo for days.
>>
>> Not an uncommon experience. In fact the usual one. I never have
>> any problem in the US, throughout Europe and the Caribbean now,
>> immune I guess. I got some in Egypt once that lasted three years.
>> But I had no problems in the Far East either.

I think some people just have more delicate stomachs than others.
>
>yes. I was warned before I went to St Lucia, to be aware thatthe food
>was pretty poor and to be careful of bugs.
>
>But with that heat, it is nearly impossible to not have ice in one's
>drinks....or eat local cuisine.
>
I've always just eaten everything provided and never even bothered to
drink bottled water except in Cozumel and Belize. And in both places
I ate fresh vegetables and had ice in my drink and had no problem with
being sick. I have never been to St. Lucia, though, so maybe it is
different there.

>> Possibly the most nutritious parts! At one time in the US Southern
>> Blacks more nutritiously fed than poor whites since the "throwaway"
>> portions of the animal are better for you!
>
>LOL
>
>good point.
>
>>> I was almost going to venture into the one Kentucky Fried Chicken on
>>> the island that I was on, to see if their chicken looked the same as
>>> the strange chicken i was seeing elsewhere on the island.
>>
>> Depends on what they eat. In France the chickens that are allowed to
>> run free and chase bugs command a higher price in the market than
>> the factory raised ones which have zero muscle tone, flabby and
>> without taste. I will admit that garbage raised chickens
>> might present a health risk! Pigs too.

As long as the food preparer doesn't include the chicken shit in the
food (i.e. is careful about salmonella, which you can get in the US
too from chickens or even eggs) and pork is properly cooked so to kill
trichinosis then there is no risk from garbage raised animals.
>
>A couple that I know were in Dominican Republic a while back and
>foolishly decided to take a local family up on their offer of a meal.
>
>The DR family probably went to a lot of trouble to cook the meal.....but
>the vacationing couple, on seeing the meal, had to pretend they had
>tummy bugs to get out of the meal.............turned out that local DR
>folks eat the things that we throw away.
>
>The family tucked into their meal and the sound of breaking bones was
>constantly heard during the meal. The locals waste nothing...and the
>chicken bones were crunched and eaten.
>
Sounds like your friends were unnecessarily squicked out. It is
perfectly OK to eat animal innards of various kinds - what do you
think sausage is made of?


grandma Rosalie

strawberry icecream
14-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Rosalie B. <gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote in

> I've always just eaten everything provided and never even bothered to
> drink bottled water except in Cozumel and Belize. And in both places
> I ate fresh vegetables and had ice in my drink and had no problem with
> being sick. I have never been to St. Lucia, though, so maybe it is
> different there.

maybe just my stomach.



>>The family tucked into their meal and the sound of breaking bones was
>>constantly heard during the meal. The locals waste nothing...and the
>>chicken bones were crunched and eaten.
>>
> Sounds like your friends were unnecessarily squicked out. It is
> perfectly OK to eat animal innards of various kinds - what do you
> think sausage is made of?


I think that they were unwise to even take up the offer.

Different folks have different ideas.

I have found, personally speaking, that caribbean food isn't that
appealing.

Cruising Chrissy
14-05-2004, 07:57 PM
On Fri, 14 May 2004 04:46:09 GMT, strawberry icecream
<spamproof@foo.com> wrote:

>
>I have found, personally speaking, that caribbean food isn't that
>appealing.

I have found that you are looking for Nirvana. The list of imperfect
climates, foods, politics...it is endless. As it will always be for
folks like you.

Truth is, what you are looking for does not exist. Enjoy your search
since that is all you have. People who revel in passing condemnation
on everything usually start threads which are looking for the perfect
something.

It's not perfection you actually seek, since you know it does not
exist, it is the opportunity for you to be perfectly anal about
everything.

I had a MIL like you; she died saving humankind one more minute's
grief of her existence.

Now, go along your way and seek a perfect death.

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