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Old 15-12-2004, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default albin 28 flush deck

I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
yanmar?

 
Old 16-12-2004, 12:19 AM   #2
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"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
> yanmar?
>


I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true.
Let us know.



 
Old 16-12-2004, 05:40 AM   #3
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>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com


>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>> yanmar?
>>

>
>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true.
>Let us know.


A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph

Capt. Bill
 
Old 16-12-2004, 05:44 AM   #4
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On 15 Dec 2004 17:40:52 GMT, labomba182@aol.com (LaBomba182) wrote:

>>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>
>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>> yanmar?
>>>

>>
>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true.
>>Let us know.

>
>A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
>does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
>And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph


These are amazing boats. The progenitors, Master Marine 28 Center
Consoles were amazing boats also.

It True World associated with Rev. Moon?

Later,

Tom
 
Old 16-12-2004, 05:50 AM   #5
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LaBomba182 wrote:
>>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>
>
>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>
>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>>yanmar?
>>>

>>
>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true.
>>Let us know.

>
>
> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph
>
> Capt. Bill



So the ads claim. Interesting boat, really, but unfortunately made by
the Moonies.
 
Old 16-12-2004, 05:51 AM   #6
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> On 15 Dec 2004 17:40:52 GMT, labomba182@aol.com (LaBomba182) wrote:
>
>
>>>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>>
>>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>
>>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>>>yanmar?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true.
>>>Let us know.

>>
>>A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
>>does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
>>And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph

>
>
> These are amazing boats. The progenitors, Master Marine 28 Center
> Consoles were amazing boats also.
>
> It True World associated with Rev. Moon?
>
> Later,
>
> Tom


It is one of his "owned" companies, along with the Washington Times.
 
Old 16-12-2004, 06:10 AM   #7
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"LaBomba182" <labomba182@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>
>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>> yanmar?
>>>

>>
>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if
>>true.
>>Let us know.

>
> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack
> shaft
> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph
>
> Capt. Bill



Are you getting those numbers from Capt. Joe Verdino?


 
Old 16-12-2004, 08:05 AM   #8
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:10:57 GMT, "NOYB" <noyb@noyb.com> wrote:

>
>"LaBomba182" <labomba182@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20041215124052.07103.00001838@mb-m10.aol.com...
>> >Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>>
>>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>>> yanmar?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if
>>>true.
>>>Let us know.

>>
>> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack
>> shaft
>> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
>> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph

>
>Are you getting those numbers from Capt. Joe Verdino?


That's advertised and based on what I've seen in other publications,
it's fairly consistent.

I'll tell you, I would buy one of the Master Marine CC in a heartbeat
if I had the need for it. You cannot imagine the ride these things
have in a heavy sea - it's amazing. Even for a relatively narrow
beamed boat, it was pretty stable. I think it's the length and the
extremely long forefoot with the sharp dead rise that allows it to
ride so nicely.

Later,

Tom
 
Old 16-12-2004, 08:26 AM   #9
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <emaildisguised@askme.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:10:57 GMT, "NOYB" <noyb@noyb.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"LaBomba182" <labomba182@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:20041215124052.07103.00001838@mb-m10.aol.com...
>>> >Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com
>>>
>>>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the
>>>>>315
>>>>> yanmar?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a
>>>>burn
>>>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if
>>>>true.
>>>>Let us know.
>>>
>>> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack
>>> shaft
>>> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
>>> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph

>>
>>Are you getting those numbers from Capt. Joe Verdino?

>
> That's advertised and based on what I've seen in other publications,
> it's fairly consistent.
>
> I'll tell you, I would buy one of the Master Marine CC


basskisser has a Master Master marine CC.


 
Old 16-12-2004, 12:33 PM   #10
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>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>From: Harry Krause


> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph
>
> Capt. Bill


>So the ads claim. Interesting boat, really, but unfortunately made by
>the Moonies.


Seriously!?

And as I recall the similar size Shamrock with a Cummins ran at about the same
speed and fuel burn.


Capt. Bill
 
Old 16-12-2004, 12:40 PM   #11
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>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com


>"LaBomba182" <labomba182@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20041215124052.07103.00001838@mb-m10.aol.com...
>> >Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>>
>>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>>> yanmar?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if
>>>true.
>>>Let us know.

>>
>> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack
>> shaft
>> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
>> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph
>>
>> Capt. Bill

>
>
>Are you getting those numbers from Capt. Joe Verdino?


No their ad.

I just looked at the Powerboat Reports Sept. 2004 issue where they test one and
they saw 22 knot cruise at 7 gph. And a max speed of just a tick over 30 knots
and max gph of 12.

Capt. Bill

Capt. Bill
 
Old 16-12-2004, 12:48 PM   #12
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LaBomba182 wrote:
>>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>From: Harry Krause

>
>
>>A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
>>does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
>>And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph
>>
>> Capt. Bill

>
>
>>So the ads claim. Interesting boat, really, but unfortunately made by
>>the Moonies.

>
>
> Seriously!?
>
> And as I recall the similar size Shamrock with a Cummins ran at about the same
> speed and fuel burn.
>
>
> Capt. Bill



Yes...True World Marine is a wholly owned subsidiary of one of Rev.
Moon's operations. I first saw one of these boats some years ago at the
Miami boat show, and was interested...and did a little checking.

Here's some info you might find interesting:

Each company listed is considered a Closely Associated Entity of the
Unification Movement. These are companies owned, operated or controlled
by the UC. In many cases they are businesses started by UC members. Some
members start their own businesses but many others are the figurehead
owners to conceal links to the Unification Movement.

Alabama:
Alabama Tokyo Express, Inc. # Montgomery Company owns Sakurabana Japanese
Restaurant. Secretary of State records indicate company was dissolved
05/28/93.
International Oceanic Enterprises, Inc. of Alabama #
Lea Productions * P.O. Box 369, Irvington, AL 36544, 205 602 0655
Sosa, Inc. #
Sunrise Fisheries, Inc. * Owns commercial fishing vessel Ocean Hope II.
Bayou La Batre
True World Foods, Inc. of Alabama * Formerly known as International
Oceanic Enterprises, Inc.
U.S. Marine Inc. * Bayou La Batre. Wholly owned by U.S. Marine Corp. It
is a holding
company for Master Marine, Inc. which builds boats.

Alaska:
Alaska Akaihana Corp. * Owns Akaihana Restaurant at 930 W. 5th Ave.
Anchorage This company is a wholly owned subsidiary of Universal
Restaurant Corporation.
Angel Garden, Inc. *
International Marine Protein, Inc. – Wholly owned by International
Seafoods of Alaska, Inc.
International Seafoods of Alaska, Inc * Kodiak, a wholly owned
subsidiary of True World Group, Inc.
Kodiak Island Charters *
Ocean Enterprises of Alaska, Inc. *
Ocean Peace, Inc. * Wholesale fish company that owns the vessel Ocean
Peace. Company is 80% owned by U.S. Marine Corp. and 20% owned by Happy
World, Inc.
Top Ocean, Inc. * Company owns fishing vessels Top Ocean and Top Ocean
II. Both vessels are 308ft. in length with Kodiak as their homeport.
True World Restaurant of Alaska, LLC * Wholly owned by Ocean World
Restaurant, Inc.
True World Travel of Alaska, LLC * This is a New Jersey LLC that is
wholly owned by True World Market, Inc. of Delaware. The company owns
the Russian Heritage Inn located in Kodiak.

Arizona:
Mr. Sushi Corporation * Owns Mr. Sushi restaurant at 8041 N. Black
Canyon, Phoenix
Heavenworks, Inc. * Mesa
Blue Sky Travel * Mesa
Southwestern Tours * Mesa

Arkansas:
Seven Stars Corp # Owns Mt. Fuji Japanese Restaurant Little Rock.
The Flower Man * Owned by church member Bruce Biggins

California:
Abbey Carpet Cleaners
ABC Maintenance Co. Marin County
Akaihana Restaurant Corporation * 1815 Williams St. San Leandro, CA
94577. California Department of Corporations records indicate the
company has been dissolved.
Aladdins Coffees, Teas & Kindreds/Warehouse Oakland
American Chinchillas * DBA for One Mind Farm, Inc.
American Freedom Coalition of CA, Inc. *
Asset Design Network, Inc. *
Bonsai World, LLC * Hayward
California Service Company 4022 Santa Barbara, L.A.
Champion Carpet & Wood Services * 13440 Paramount Blvd., Suite H, South
Gate, CA 90280 Company is owned by International Exchange, Inc.
Christian Bernard Stores Corp. * San Mateo, Costa Mesa, & Concord.
Creative Designs/Gallery * San Francisco
Creative Woods * 2929 Avalon Ave., Berkeley. Company owned by Chaim L.
Durst the son of former Unification Church of America President Mose Durst.
Crystal World, Inc. * Brea West Coast office.
Decor Marketing * Found in many California malls. Original World
Products Corp owns company.
Essex Wholesale Fowers * 1815 Williams St., San Leandro, CA 94577
Family Federation for World Peace, Inc. *
Flower King * 1815 Williams St., San Leandro, CA 94577
Flower World Farms * 4200 South Alameda, Vernon.
Fine Motor Cars, 9821 Bigge Ave., Oakland 94603 415 632 6200
Ginseng of California, Inc., 880 81st Ave., Oakland 415 635 2811
Golden Gate Publishing Co.
Golden Gate Seafood Inc. 1815 Williams, San Leandro
Golden West Printing Co. #
Good Carpet Care
Hana Chain, Inc. # Company owns Hana Seafood Restaurant Fish Market &
Sushi Bar
4535 Mission Blvd., San Diego, CA 92109
Hanjo Corp #
Happy World America, Inc. * 4200 South Alameda, Vernon.
Happy World Products, 17813 S. Main St. #115, Gardena, CA 90248; 213 327
6243
Healthyket, Inc. #
HHTK Corp #
IL Sung L.P. # Issei California, Inc. listed as general partner.
InterLinear Technology, Inc. * Part of the MicroSignals Group
International Travelers Limousine & Tour Co., Inc. #
International Judo, Karate and Aikado School Oakland
International Exchange Enterprises, Inc. *
International Exchange Leasing, 9821 Bigge Ave., Oakland 94603,
International Exchange Maintenance
International Exchange, Inc. * 9821 Bigge Ave., Oakland 94603. Also 880
81st Ave.,
Oakland, 415 632 6200
International Exchange Press, 425 Brannon St., San Francisco, 94107; 415
989 6717
International Exchange Union San Francisco
Issei California, Inc. *
Mayflower Finance Corp. *
MicroSignals Group * Alameda
National Newspaper Corporation * 1301 Second St., Los Angeles, DBA used
by News World Communications, Inc. in California.
Notica Del Mundo * DBA for News World Communications, Inc.
Ocean Challenge of Southern CA, Inc. *
Ocean Church * 419 Cape Cod Dr., San Leandro, CA 94578
Ocean World Restaurant, Inc. * Delaware corporation with New Jersey
address registered to do business in California.
One Mind Farm, Inc. * 14751 Hwy 128, Boonville, CA 95415
One Mind Enterprises Mibrae
Original World Products * City of Industry.
Pacific Restaurant Corporation * 1815 Williams St., San Leandro, CA
94577. Company owns Hasegawa Restaurant 108 Petaluma Blvd. North,
Petaluma, CA 94952 and Kiiroihana Restaurant 655 Union St., San
Francisco, CA 44133.
Pacific Rim Media Group, Inc. #
Pacific Sunrise Products *
Pan Pacific Asia Enterprises, Inc.
Pioneer Seafood America, Inc.
Problem Solvers International, Inc.
Sacramento Restaurant Corporation # 1815 Williams St., San Leandro.
Saeilo Machinery, Inc. * 14340 Iseli Rd., Santa Fe Springs
Saeilo Machinery, Inc. * San Francisco
Saeilo Motors CA, Inc. * 375 Bristol St. Ste. 85, Costa Mesa
Sakurabana Japanese Restaurant * 1907 Capitol Ave Sacramento, CA 95814
San Diego Happy Foods, Inc. * Owns Sakurabana restaurant at 1031 First
St., #101,
Encinitas, CA 92024. Part of True World Group, Inc.
Sawayaka, Inc. * Company owns Enshino Restaurant 17047 Ventura Blvd. Encino
Seno Travel Services 150 Powell St., San Francisco
Seil Travel America West, Inc. *
Shien International, Inc * 16769 Bernardo Center #K 11, San Diego, CA 92128.
Company owns Shien of Osaka Japanese Restaurant at this location.
Shokuhin Development West, Inc. # Merged with New York company Shokuhin
Development, Inc.
Sun San Lee International, Inc.
Sunko Construction Corp. #
Sunlight Restaurant Corporation * Owns Ichiban Restaurant 22560 Foothill
Blvd., Hayward, CA 94541. Part of True World Group, Inc.
The Rose Shop Leamington Hotel, Oakland
True World Foods, Inc. *
True World Foods, Inc. of San Francisco * 1815 Williams St., San Leandro.
True World Foods, Inc. of Los Angeles * Los Angeles, 2002 annual report
filed in AZ states this company is wholly own subsidiary of True World
Foods, Inc. of San Francisco.
U & I Express # 4200 South Alameda, Vernon.
Uni World Tensuke, Inc. * Los Angeles, retail seafood outlet.
Unified Martial Arts South Pasadena
Unitec Enterprises * A division of Saeilo Machinery of CA, Inc.
United Seas Master Marine * DBA for Master Marine, Inc.
Universal Marine Industries, Inc. * 1815 Williams St. San Leandro, CA 94577
Universal Restaurant Corporation * 20625 Alves Dr., Cupertino, CA 95014.
Company owns Metropolis Bar & Restaurant 666 North La Cienega Blvd., Los
Angeles, CA 90069 and Ikenohana Restaurant at the above corporate address.
World One Telecom, Ltd. * Part of the MicroSignals Group.
Yamato Foods, Inc. * 1815 Williams, San Leandro 94577; 415 352 8140.
Merged with
Golden Gate Seafood, Inc.

Colorado:
Bloomingdeli’s, Inc. * Restaurant at 2301 E. Colfax Ave., Denver.
Rainbow Fish House, Inc. * Changed name to True World Foods, Inc. of Chicago

Sushi Heights, Inc. * This is a DBA registered by Bloomingdeli’s, Inc.
Part of True World Group, Inc.

Connecticut:
Christian Bernard Stores Corp. * Farmington
Kohana Restaurant, Inc. * Owns Hama Japanese Restaurant Hamden. Part of
True World Group, Inc.
Marine Landing Corp. # Subsidiary of Unification Church International.
True World Foods, Inc. * Gloucester

Delaware:
Eastgate Development Corp. * Truck leasing company owned by
International Relief
Friendship Foundation.
One World Market, Inc. *
Tokyo Delaware Enterprises, Inc. * Company trading as Mikasa Japanese
Restaurant
3602 Kirkwood Highway, Wilmington, DE 19808

Florida:
A & S Flower Exchange, Inc. # 2882 NW 72nd St., Miami
ASAP Shipping, Inc. #
Christian Bernard Stores * Boca Raton
Continental Development Corporation #
Condevco, Inc. #
Del Mundo Holding Co. *
Delta Imported Flowers * 2882 NW 72nd St., Miami Merged with A & S
Flower Exchange.
Eden Delta Flowers, Inc. #
Eden Floral Farm, Inc. * 2153 NW 86th Avenue. Miami
Global Port Corp. * Name changed from Global Port USA Corp. on 12/11/96.
Happy World America, Inc. * Miami
Happy World Latin America, Inc. * Miami
Infinity Realty, Inc. * 8180 NW 36th St., Suite 101, Miami
International Ostrich Farms, Inc. * Miami
Issei Housing, Inc. * 7337 NW 37th Ave.
J.P. Flowers Company # Named changed to Eden Floral Farm, Inc. On 05/10/84.
Jacksonville Seafood, Inc. * Subsidiary of United Sea Enterprises, Inc.
which is a subsidiary of True World Group, Inc.
Linda Sue, Inc. #
L & M Unlimited, Inc. * Jacksonville
Miami Bouquet Exchange, Inc. #
Miracle Fish, Inc. * Miami
N & S International Development, Corp. * Miami
Solutant Corporation * 11205 NW 36th Avenue, Miami, FL 33167
Sun Flower Restaurants, Inc. #
Sunshine Flowers * CARP business at 7371 NW 35th St. Miami, 33122
Tensuke of Hawaii, Inc. # Jacksonville
The Sunshine Foods of Tampa, Inc. * Company owns Kaoribana Japanese
Restaurant
13180 N. Dale Mabry, Tampa.
The Unification Church of Florida, Inc. # 8514 N. Lynn Ave., UE, Tampa
Tiempos USA Corp. * Delaware corporation doing business in Florida.
Tropical Spring import/export
True World Foods, Inc. * Florida Department of Corporation records
indicate this company changed it’s name to Solutant Corporation on 5/3/01.
True World Foods, Inc. of Miami * New name for United Sea Enterprises
United Sea Enterprises, Inc. * Miami, Fictitious name registered by True
World Foods, Inc. of Miami.
Women's Federation for World Peace, Inc. *
World Ocean, Inc. # This New York corporation had previously operated in
Florida in late 1980’s.

Georgia:
3L Corp. # Possibly a CARP affiliated company.
Azumi U.S.A., Inc. * 5552 Silver Ridge Rd., Stone Mountain, GA 30087
Centem U.S., Inc. * Changed name from C F Han, Inc. Had previously owned
New Hope Farms in Carrizo Springs, TX.
International Auto Processing, Inc. * Brunswick, company off loads cars
from ships at
this port facility. Owned by Panda Motors Corp.
IOE Atlanta * International Oceanic Enterprises, 2381 John Glenn Dr.,
Atlanta
404 455 9504
Miracle Home Style Laundry, Inc. * Atlanta
Paradigm Capital Management, Inc. * Atlanta headquarters for this
company founded and run by Bo Hi Pak's son James M. Park.
Paradigm Global Advisers, Inc. * Delaware corporation with New York
address also run by James M. Park.
Rainbow Fish House, Inc. * DBA for True World Foods, Inc. in Chamblee
Saeilo Machinery USA, Inc. * Atlanta
Sekaino-Shiawase South, Inc. #
St. Louis Fish House, Inc. #
Taiyo, Inc. Atlanta
The Atlanta Council for Community Change * Atlanta
Tokyo Express, Inc. * Owns August Moon Japanese Restaurant Doraville.
Transafrican Resources Ltd., Inc. # Administratively dissolved by
Georgia in 1991.
True World Foods, Inc. of Chicago * Chamblee
Women's Federation for World Peace *


Hawaii:
Bali Hai Sport Fishing, Inc. *
Dynamic Kona, Inc. * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu. Company describes
business on Annual Report as “to organize and conduct recreational tours.”
Hawaiian Forest Estates * Trade name used by True World Foods of Hawaii
to sell coffee at: http://www.twfhawaii.com/products/coffee.htm. Hawaii
Commerce and Consumer Affairs Department shows this trade name was
assigned to Pacific Rim Integrated Development, Inc. on 3/19/99.
High School of the Pacific * 74-5620A Palani Road Suite 106 Kailua-Kona,
HI 96740. School operated by Pacific Rim Education Foundation.
Kona Sportfishing, Inc. * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu. Receives mail C/O
Dynamic Kona, Inc. Coast Guard vessel registration information indicates
the company owns the boat Kona Concept.
One Happy World, Inc. # 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu, HI 96819 Company has
been dissolved, last annual report on file listed the business type as
investment farm.
Pacific Aloha Enterprises, Inc. # 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu
Pacific Rim Education Foundation, Inc. * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu. A
nonprofit organization previously known as the American Freedom
Coalition Education Foundation of Hawaii.
Pacific Rim Integrated Development, Inc. * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu.
An article from Pacific Magazine dated April 3, 2001 identified the
company as a distributor of the Washington Times.
Pacific Rim Integrated Development Group, Inc. * 72-1040 Puukala St.,
Kailua-Kona.
Sunny Seafood, Inc. # 1960 Kapiolani Blvd., Suite 115, Honolulu,
Dissolved former retail seafood outlet.
Tensuke Of Hawaii, Inc. * Trade name registered by True World Foods,
Inc. of Hawaii.
The President’s University # 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu
True World Coffee * PMB #982 74-5602 Alapa St., Kailua Kona, HI 96740
This is a division of True World Foods, Inc. of Hawaii.
True World Kona Coffee * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu. Trade name
registered by Pacific Rim Integrated Development, Inc.
True World Foods, Inc. of Hawaii * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu. Phone
808-836-3222
World Fisheries of Hawaii, Inc. # 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu. Company
has dissolved. Initial paid in capital of $100,000 provided by Happy
World, Inc. of Japan.
Z & G Enterprises, Inc. * 2696 Waiwai Loop, Honolulu.

Idaho:
Sekai No Shiwase Idaho, Inc. * Owns Tsuru Japanese Restaurant, Boise.
Part of True World Group, Inc.

Illinois:
AA High Tech * Division of Saeilo Machinery (IL), Inc.
Akaihana Japanese Restaurant * Wilmette
Chicago Seafoods International # Trade name used in the past by Rainbow
Fish House
Christian Bernard Jewelry * Chicago, Schaumburg, Bloomingdale.
Ganada, Inc. * 2577 United Lane, Elk Grove Village 60007
Go World Travel * 5816 N. Lincoln Ave., Chicago 312 275 1500
Horizon Galleries * DBA for News World Communications, Inc.
Korean Television Broadcasting Corp. * Chicago
Koshin, Inc. 2577 United Lane, Elk Grove Village 60007
Lifespring Health Foods & Juices * 3/78 N. Clark St., Chicago
New World Products – Butterflies
Nohana Japanese Restaurant * Owned by Shiroi Hana, Inc.
Paragon N/C Machining * Division of Saeilo Machinery (IL), Inc.
Patricia's Gift Shop Harlem & Irving Mall, Chicago
Rainbow Fish House, Inc. * Changed name to True World Foods, Inc. of Chicago
Saeilo Machinery (IL), Inc. * Elk Grove Village
Saeilo Motors IL, Inc. * 480 Industrial Dr., Bensenville
Sea Ranch, Inc. * 3217 Lake Ave., Wilmette. This is a seafood store.
Sea Ranch Grocery Store * 3223 Lake Ave., Wilmette.
Shiroi Hana, Inc. * DBA for Nohana Japanese Restaurant. Part of the True
World Group.
Shiroi Hana, Inc. * DBA for Shiroi Hana Japanese Restaurant
Sun Machining Corp. * Subsidiary of Saeilo Machinery (IL), Inc.
True Nature Health Foods * Subsidiary of Il Hwa American Corp.
True World Foods, Inc. of Chicago * Formerly Rainbow Fish House, Inc.
True World Market * Assumed name used by Sea Ranch, Inc.

Indiana:
Ocean World * Seafood Restaurant in Indianapolis. Part of True World
Group, Inc.
Original World Products Corporation * 2113 Southlake Mall, Gary. Changed
name to UV Sales, Inc.
Sakura Japanese Restaurant * Indianapolis - Part of True World Group, Inc.
Sakura Mart * Indianapolis
Sakura Seafood, Inc. * Indianapolis
S.S. Indiana, Inc. * Owns Sakura Japanese Restaurant Indianapolis.

Kentucky:
Tokyo Kentucky Enterprises, Inc.

Louisiana:
Gulf Fresh Tuna, Inc. *
Tairyo, Inc. * New Orleans, company owns vessel The Rising Sun.
Venice Wholesale Seafood * Venice

Maine:
Hometown Flowers, Inc. * Lisbon, ME owned by UC member Jim Caron
Ocean Fresh Seafood, Inc. Owns Shiki Japanese Restaurant in Portland. No
longer open.

Maryland:
Able Business Services, Inc. * Columbia
American Bonsai * Annapolis Mall
Christian Bernard Stores Corp. * White Flint Mall
Computertots of PG County & DC * Brentwood, Owned by member Ann Brown.
Dili Deli # Laurel Center
Edington Rand, Inc. # Riverdale
Excel Carpet Care, Inc. # Bowie
Exclusively Roses * Gaithersburg 301 948 1806
Help Key, Inc. # Bowie
Kaori Hana # Japanese restaurant in Chevy Chase closed 1991.
New Wave Seafood, Inc. * Landover, merged into True World Seafood, Inc.
of D.C.
Original Heart Productions * Silver Spring, sells musical tapes made by
members.
Principled Financial Services #
Sun Seafood * 3331 75th Ave., Landover. Trade name used by True World
Foods, Inc. of New York.
Third Millennium Software #

Massachusetts:
Amagi, Inc. *
Boston Tea Company #
Boston Principle Company #
Charlie's Fish Trucks, Inc. #
Ginseng Up Corp. * 16 Plum St., Worcester
Gloucester Lobster Co * 95 E. Main, Gloucester
International Lobster *
International Seafood Company of Gloucester, Inc. * Gloucester
International Seafood Company of Massachusetts, Inc.
Kahr Arms Factory * 130 Goddard Memorial Dr., Worcester
Ki Mat Paint Company * Newton
Morning Garden Villa Western Ave., Gloucester
New One Restaurant, Inc. * 121 East Main St. Gloucester, MA 01930
Rocky Neck Seafood Corp. * 148 Hampden St. Roxbury, MA 02119 Changed
it’s name to True World Foods, Inc. of Boston on 03/02/99.
Saeilo Machinery MA, Inc. * Company manufactures Kahr K9 semi automatic
pistol.
Sakurabana, Inc. * 57 Broad St. Boston, MA 02109. Part of True World
Group, Inc.
Sea Clear 95 E. Main St., Gloucester
The Broom, Inc. * 111 East Main St., Gloucester, MA 01930
The Lobster Pool Restaurant # Gloucester


True World Foods, Inc. of Boston * 22 Food Mart Rd., Boston Company
merged with International Seafood Company of Gloucester, Inc. on
08/12/99 then merged into True World Foods, Inc. on 12/28/00. True World
Foods, Inc. changed its name to Solutant Corporation on 05/03/01.
True World Foods, Inc. of Boston * 111 E. Main St., Gloucester
True World Foods, Inc. * 8 Norwood Ct., Ste. 122, Gloucester
U.S. Ocean Supply Co., Inc. * 121 East Main St., Gloucester, MA 01930.
This is the US
subsidiary of the Japanese company Toitsu Sangyo Co.
World Tuna Tournament, Inc Gloucester, MA

Michigan:
A Fragrant Flower * DBA for Hana International, Inc.
Detroit Seafood & Supply * 45 E. 14 Mile Rd., Clawson
Hana International, Inc. * Sold Kaori Bana Japanese Restaurant
Happiness International * Subsidiary of Hana International, Inc.
Il Hwa Ginseng Center 153 Arden Park, Detroit
Noble Fish 45 E. 14 Mile Rd., Clawson
Panda Motors Corp. 295 Kirts Blvd. #110, Troy
Rainbow Fish House, Inc. * DBA for True World Foods, Inc. in Livonia
Sky Valley Ranch Kalkaska
Sunny Food for Thought 660 Woodward/18971 Livernois, Detroit
Sunny Floral
True World Foods, Inc. of Chicago * 45 E. 14 Mile Rd., Clawson
True World Foods, Inc. of Chicago * Livonia
Woo Chon Oriental Restaurant * DBA for Hana International, Inc.

Minnesota:
Daikoku Restaurant, Inc. * Owns Sakura Restaurant Rochester.
Ginseng Tea Distributors of Il Hwa 3178 N. Clark, Minneapolis

Mississippi:
Master Marine, Inc. * Moss Point, Company is wholly owned by U.S.
Marine, Inc. which is wholly owned by U.S. Marine Corporation. The Holy
Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity owns 83% of
the voting stock of U.S. Marine Corporation. The remaining stock is
owned by One Up Enterprises, Inc., which wholly owns International
Oceanic Enterprises, Inc. the parent company of International Oceanic
Enterprises, Inc. of Alabama and International Oceanic Enterprises Inc.
of Alaska. One Up Enterprises, Inc. is wholly owned by Unification
Church International.
Ocean Enterprises, Inc. * Owns Little Tokyo Restaurant Jackson. Part of
the True World Group, Inc.


Missouri:
Saeilo Machinery (USA) #
Saeilo of St. Louis # Trade name registered to Saeilo Machinery (USA)

Montana:
Kaori Corp. * Owns Shogun Restaurant Billings.

Nebraska:
Ichiban, Inc. * Owns Sushi Ichiban Restaurant * Omaha. Part of True
World Group, Inc.

Nevada:
Christian Bernard Jewelers Las Vegas
Décor Marketing * 3470 S Maryland Parkway, Las Vegas NV 89109 Fictitious
Name filed by Original World Products Corp.
Kabuki Japanese Restaurant * Las Vegas
Kook Jin Moon Family Limited Partnership *
Moon Industrial Real Estate, LLC * Kook Jin Moon is the Managing
Partner. The company owns a condominium in Miami Beach, FL.
Seil Tours, LLC * Las Vegas

New Hampshire:
Sakura, Inc. * Owns Sakura Japanese Restaurant Portsmouth.
Tengu, Inc. * Owns Tengu Japanese Restaurant Nashua. This restaurant
appears to be out of business.

New Jersey:
Balise Business Services * Moonachie
Big Apple Franchising, Inc. * A subsidiary of True World Group, Inc.
Big Apple Sushi * Trade name registered by Big Apple Franchising, Inc.
Christian Bernard Jewelers Atlantic City
Christian Bernard Stores Corp. *
Crystal Marketing Associates, LLC * Clifton
Crystalmarketplace.com, Inc. * Clifton
Crystal World, Inc. * 120 Industrial Ave., Little Ferry
Decor Marketing, 3 Caesar Pl, Moonachie, NJ 07074 201 933 2020
Elizabeth Cold Storage Co., L.P. * A fictitious name registered by New
Marine Company, L.P.
E N Enterprises * 408 Center St., Fort Lee, NJ 07028
Fine International Cuisine Corporation *
Flower World Wholesale * 3234 Papetti Plaza, Elizabeth 908 351 3166
Genesis Production * 725 River Rd., Edgewater, NJ 07020-1101
HWA. Marine, Inc. * Elizabeth
Happy World America, Inc * 3234 Papetti Plaza, Elizabeth
Happy World Products, 3 Caesar Pl., Moonachie, NJ 07074
Healthy Lifestyles * Trade name used by Il Hwa
Hobby World Development, Inc. * 100 Marin Blvd., Jersey City. Subsidiary
of True World Group, Inc.
Hometown Touch Publishing * Clifton
Iner, Inc. *
International Oceanic Enterprises * Elizabeth 201 661 0778
Issei Corporation * 21 Lawrence Ave., Lodi, NJ 07644
Izone Group, Inc. * 24 Link Dr., Rockleigh, NJ 07647. A subsidiary of
United Vision Group. They sell sunglasses at kiosks in malls.
Lee Shapiro Memorial Foundation *
Liberty Seafood Restaurant * Liberty Harbor Marina, Jersey City
M & M Tackle Shop * DBA for True World Outdoor Sport, Inc., Liberty
Harbor Marina, Jersey City
M & W Services * Liberty Harbor Marina, Jersey City
Master Maine NJ, Inc. * Changed their name to True World Marine.
MicroSignals, Inc. * Part of the MicroSignals Group based in California.
New Age International Corp. * 408 Center St., Fort Lee, NJ 07028
New Marine Company, L.P. * 3234 Papetti Plaza, Elizabeth Incorporated by
HWA Marine, Inc.
New Marine Urban Renewal Development Corp * 3234 Papetti Plaza,
Elizabeth, NJ 07207. Company owns the building at this address, which
houses many movement companies.
New York Fish House, Inc. * 3234 Papetti Plaza, Elizabeth, NJ 07207 908
351 1400. Company is seafood wholesaler with $15,750,000 in sales. Trade
name for True World Foods, Inc.
Original World Products, Inc. * 3 Caesar Pl., Moonachie 07074
Saeilo Motors, Inc. * 2044 Center Ave., Ste. 2S, Fort Lee, NJ.
Saeilo Motors NY, Inc. * 480 River Rd., Edgewater 07020 201-840-0010
Saeilo Motors NY, Inc. * 8707 River Rd., North Bergen. Car Sales at this
location.
Sakurabana Japanese Restaurant * Ridgewood, NJ.
Seil Travel America, Inc. * Fort Lee
Senkai Live Fish * Liberty Harbor Marina, Jersey City
Solutant Corporation * 32-34 Papetti Plaza, Elizabeth, NJ 07207
True World Foods, Inc. * Changed name to Solutant Corporation
True World Marine * 120 Industrial Ave., Little Ferry. A.K.A. Master Marine
True World Sport, Inc. * DBA for True World Outdoor Sport, Inc., 100
Marin Blvd., Jersey City
U.S. Fish Home, L.P. * A fictitious name registered by New Marine
Company, L.P.
Wacom, Inc # W. Park 80 West Plaza II 200, Saddle River, NJ 07662 201
265 4226. This is a subsidiary of the Japanese company Wacom Ltd. Wacom
is owned by Happy World.
World Ocean, Inc. * 100 Luis Munoz Marin Blvd., Jersey City 201 435 3808

New Mexico:
Golden Mexico, Inc. * Owns Sakura Japanese Restaurant Santa Fe.
Oriental Star of New Mexico, Inc. #

New York:
3L Corp # CARP business that changed name to Multimedia Research Group
6 East 37th St. Corp * Company purchased 6-8 East 37th St. in Manhattan
from Continental Development Corp in 1997. This company and True World
Realty and Property Management, Inc. have the same president.
AA High Tech * Subsidiary of Saeilo Machinery, Inc.
Abel Business Services, Inc. * Mamaroneck
Accord, Inc., 481 8th Ave., 10001 (212) 714 1099
Acumedia Technology Development, Inc. * 60 E. 42nd St., #1166, NY, NY
10165. This company was incorporated in 1996 and appeared as a wholly
owned subsidiary of CARP in IRS Annual reports from at least 1999 to
2001. The 2002 CARP IRS Annual report no longer lists any ownership
interest in the company.
Admiral Marine Electronics Corp. * 38 38 9th St. L.I.C., NY 11101
Alex & Ginseng Beverage Corp. #
American Screen and Music NY, NY.
Art Du Monde, Inc. * Subsidiary of Unification Church International
Atlantic Communications, Inc. * Uses same address as Terralink
B.F. Devco, Inc. # This company was a subsidiary of Continental
Development Corp.
Beverage Corp of NY * Brooklyn, distributes Ginseng Up.
BFA Services, Inc * 1120 Ave, of the Americas, Suite 4132
Blue Jay Enterprises 401 5th Ave., NYC
Blue Sky Tours #
Business Research Corp. * 481 8th Ave., NY, NY.
Canaan Health Foods # 1145 Ave. of Americas, NYC
Canaan Travel Services, Inc. * 393 5th Ave. Listed as a subsidiary of
the Canaan
Foundation, Inc. on 1991 non profit tax return.
Champion Interiors * www.ChampionInteriors.com
Champion Services, Inc. * 103 N. 13th St., Brooklyn, NY 11211
Champion Realty Group, Inc. * 481 8th Ave., New York City
Christian Bernard Jewelry Stores
Christina Bahn, Inc. wholesale furrier 401 5th Ave.
Condevco, Inc. # This company was subsidiary of Continental Development
Corp.
Continental Development Corp. * Real estate holding company.
Creative Designs International, Inc. * 34 State St. Ossining, NY 10562,
changed name to Hudson River Inlay, Inc.
Creative Originals 120 S. Broadway, Red Hook, NY 12571
Creative Originals Properties, Incorporated #
Creative Woods * Same address as Creative Designs
Crossings * 4 W. 43rd. St., New gourmet coffee shop.
Crystal World, 38 38 9th Ave., L. I. City, NY 11101 718 786 0259
Daikoku Restaurant, Inc. * Owns Kiiroi Hana Japanese Restaurant
Delval Realty, Inc. # 200 Saw Mill River Rd., Hawthorne, NY 10603
Dumonde Gallery * NYC
East Sun Automotive Corporation # 38 38 9th Ave., L. I. City, NY 11101
East Sun Building, 38 38 9th St., L.I. City, NY 11101
East West Link Corporation # 401-B 5th Ave., NYC
Empowered Media Corp * 481 8th Ave.
ESPB, Inc. * Subsidiary of News World Communications, Inc.
Fine International Cuisine Corporation *
Fir and Pine Corp * Company trades as Ninja Japanese Restaurant on
Second Ave.
First Generation Costume Jewelers, Inc. *
Four Seasons Photo, Inc. * 2 East 37th St., NY, NY 10016.
Freedom Tours, 53rd Ave. & 11th St., Queens, NY 718 784 5550
Fruitzer Co., 401 B 5th Ave., NYC 212 889 6095 Company owned by Ginseng
Up Corp.
Fuhriman Beat, 481 8 Ave., NYC 10001; 212 564 0599
Future Merchandising Systems, Inc. * White Plains
Future Productions, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001 212 564 0130
G. M. Bridge Corp. * 237 Mamaroneck Ave. White Plains, NY 10605.
Ganada, Inc., 38 38 9th St., LI City 11101 718 706 0750
Ginseng Glass Garden 510 Ave. of the Americas, NYC
Ginseng Up Corp., 401B 5th Ave., NYC 10017 212 683 1930
Glass Garden Manufacturing, Inc. * 60 Greenpoint Ave., Brooklyn
Global Communications * Counter Espionage Consulting, P.O. Box 70,
Irvington, NY
Global Concerns, Ltd., 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016 (DBA Tongil)
Go Tours, Inc., 38 38 9th St., LI City 11101 718 729 6594
Go Transportation, Inc., 38 38 9th St., LI City, 11101 718 729 6594.
This is the parent company for Freedom Tours and Go Tours.
Go World, Inc. * Travel Agency
Go World Travel * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001 212 067 8080 Changed name to
Canaan Travel Services, Inc. on 7/24/89. The new address is 393 5th Ave.
Going Up Press 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016; 212 683 4452
Gold Moon Enterprises, Inc. * 481 8th Ave. NY, NY.
Good Connections, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 279 1126
Good Food Café, 401B 5th Ave., NYC 10016; 212 686 3546 Company owned by
Il Hwa American Corp.
Hager, Bacus & Biermans * 4 W 43rd St., NYC 10036 212 869 5706. UC
members who are attorneys and handle church legal work.
Han Corp. * Owns New Hope Farms Port Jervis, NY. Company had owned 3,000
acre horse farm in Carrizo Springs, TX. This farm was sold in 1999 for
$6.5 million. New York State Division of Corporations records indicate
this company now uses the name United Vision Group, Inc.
Hanam Asset Acquisition, Inc. * Same address as Hanam Capital Corp.
Hanam Capital Corp. * 38 West 32nd St., Suite 1512
Hanam Consultant Services, Inc. # Dissolved 01/06/94.
Happy Roads
Happy World USA, 38 38 9th St., LI City 11101; 718 786 0187
Heung Young (America), Inc. # 481 8th Ave.
Homeopathic Natural Supply of NY, 2 E. 37th St., NYC 10036
Hope Industries Inc. 316 5th Ave./325 W. 108th St., NYC
Horizon Galleries * Dun & Bradstreet reports this is a trade name of Art
Du Monde, Inc.
HSA Communications, Inc., 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 736 2663
HSA Publications, 4 W. 43rd St., NYC 10036; 212 997 0050
Hudson Realty Associates, Inc. # Changed name to Hudson Aquatic Park,
Inc. 04/18/97.
Hudson River Inlay, Inc. * Subsidiary of United Vision Group, Inc.
Markets wooden marquetry. Generally sold through kiosks in malls.
I Travel, Inc. * 350 5th Ave., Suite 4901, 212 736 6030 Name change to
Seil America Travel.
Icusa, Inc., 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 239 1095
Il Hwa American Corp. 401 B 5th Ave. NYC 212 696 0130
Il Hwa Korean Ginseng Center * a/k/a Good Food Café
Il Hwa Pharmaceutical Co. *
Il Sung Construction Co., 38 38 9th St., LI City, 11101
INA Consulting # 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 714 1111
International One World Crusade * 723 Broadway, Tarrytown, NY 10591
International One World Communications Network, Inc. # 481 8th Ave.
International Oceanic Enterprises, Inc. # Name changed to True World
Group, Inc.
IOE Group Consulting * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001
Issei Construction Co., Inc. * New name for Sunko Construction then
changed name to Issei Corporation.
Japanese Typesetting Hikari, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001
JEM Beverage Corp. #
Jin Wha Printing Co., Inc. * 350 5th Ave. Suite 6106, NY, NY 10118.
Merged with Hikari Japanese Typesetting, Inc. on 6/3/87.
Katsugyo Restaurant, Inc. * Company owns Tenkai restaurant at 20 W 56th.
Kenkoh American Company * Subsidiary of Il Hwa American Corp.
Restaurant, Inc. * Owns Maruihana Japanese Restaurant 143 45 Fulton St.
Manhattan.
Kokoro International, Inc. * 401 5th Ave., NYC
Korean Evangelical Association (another name for UC)
Koya Mart #
Life Enrichment Enterprises * Barrytown
Manhattan Center Studios, Inc. 311 W. 34th St., NYC 10001.This company is a
subsidiary of Unification Church International.
Manhattan Opera House Ballrooms & Banquet Halls, Inc. #
Master Marine, Inc. * AKA Master Marine of N.Y., Inc. 38 38 9th St., LI
City 11101
Master Marine of N.Y., Inc. *
Masterland Construction Co., Inc. * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001 Subsidiary
of Tong IL
Enterprises.
MCNY Group, Inc. * 4 W 43rd St., NY, NY 10036
Microsignals, Inc. 38 42 9th St. L.I.C., NY 11101
Midtown Sports Club * 481 8th Ave. NY, NY 10001
Moon Industrial Real Estate, LLC * Kook Jin Moon is Managing Partner
Morningside Fish Market 1282 Amsterdam Ave., NYC
New Future Photo * 481 8th Ave. NYC
New Hope Sport * 34 State St., Ossining, NY 10562
New Yorker Health Resources, Inc. * 481 8th Ave. NYC
New Yorker Hotel Management Co. * 481 8th Ave., NY, NY 10001. Aka World
Mission Center
New York Ocean, Inc * Owns Sonobana Restaurant 481 8th Ave.
New World Products, Inc. * 401 5th Ave., NYC
New Shopping World, Inc. * C/O One World Market, 38-42 9th St., 4th Fl,
LIC, NY
News World Communications Inc. 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016
N H Farms, Inc. * Uses trade name of New Hope Farms.
Noble Productions, Inc. * 481 8th Ave.
Oceanic Seafood Enterprises *
Omoni Systems, Inc. # 47 Taxter Rd., Irvington, NY 10533
One Heart International, Inc. * 481 8th Ave. NY, NY
One Heart Trading Company * 481 8th Ave. NY, NY.
One Lite Electric #
One Up Enterprises * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001
One World Development, Inc. * 481 8th Ave., Room 611
Original Health, Inc. 481 8th Ave., NY, NY.
Original World Products Corporation * Now goes by name UV Sales, Inc.
Original World Products, Inc. #
Oro Designs, Inc. * Owns Christian Bernard Store in Herald Square
Paradigm Capital Management, Inc. * Founded and run by Bo Hi Pak's son
James M. Park.
Paradigm Global Advisors, LLC * Also run by James M. Park
Paragon Book Reprint Corp. * Owns Paragon House Publishers. Company is
owned by
International Cultural Foundation.
Pine Island Aquaculture * DBA for True World Farms, Inc. 250 Oil City
Rd., Pine Island, NY 10969
Prime Energy Products, 401B 5th Ave., NYC 10016; 212 683 1930
Provident Developers, Inc. # Subsidiary of Go Transportation.
Rainbow Enterprises, Inc. #
Reiki Master Teacher, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 239 0128
Ryugu America, Inc. # Owns Akaihana Restaurant 2164 Broadway, NY, NY.
SaeGae Mascom, Inc. # 401 5th Ave, NY, NY 10016
Saeilo Equity Holdings, LLP * 630 Route 303, Blauvelt, NY
Saeilo Machinery USA, Inc. * 38 38 9th St., LIC 718 786 2927
Saeilo Machinery USA, Inc. * 587 Route 303, Blauvelt, NY
Saeilo Motors NY, Inc. * 69 15 50th St., Woodside, NY 11377; 718 651 8100
Saeilo Motors NY, Inc. * 428 Waverly Ave., Mamaroneck.
Saeilo Refrigeration * 38 38 9th St., LIC, NY 11101; 718 937 9840
Assumed name used
by Saeilo Machinery, Inc.
Saeilo USA, Inc. * 630 Route 303, Blauvelt, NY 914 353 7770
Season to Season Florist * DBA for Future Merchandising Systems.
Sei Shin, Inc. #
Seil Travel America, Inc. * 401 5th Ave., NYC
Seito Trading, Inc. * Long Island City
Sekaino-Shiawase East, Inc. # Changed name to Shokuhin Development East,
Inc.
Shinshu International, Inc. # Changed name to New York Fish House, Inc.
in 1985. New York Fish House changed its name to True World Foods, Inc.
of New York in 1999. True World Foods, Inc. of New York is a wholly
owned subsidiary of True World Group, Inc.
Shokuhin Development Inc. – 350 Fifth Ave., Suite 6104, New York, NY
10118. This address is listed for service of process with the New York
State Division of Corporations.
Shokuhin Development East, Inc. #
South Bay Gunnery Supply * 10 Dock Rd., Barrytown, NY 12507. This is the
address of the Unification Theological Seminary. Company is a DBA for J.
Douglas Williams. Hyo Jin Moon bankruptcy records indicate this subject
purchased his collection of firearms and ammunition for $38, 795.39.
Sunko Construction Co. * Current entity name is Issei Construction Co.,
Inc. 38 38 9th St., LI City, 11101
Sunlight Graphics # 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016; 212 683 4452
Tec Electric Corporation * Yonkers
Teikoku Seafood, Inc. * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001 Phone is 212 714 1441.
Tenkai * Japanese restaurant in New York City. Part of True World Group,
Inc.
Terada America, Inc. #
Terralink, Inc. * P.O. Box 1397 New York, NY 10018
The Glass Garden, Inc. * 60 Greenpoint Ave., Brooklyn 11222
The Natural Choice, 481 8th Ave., NYC 212 564 6039
Tong Il Enterprises 342 Front St., NYC Wholesale warehouse
Tongil Trading America Co., Inc., 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016
Tree of Life Restaurant 521 3rd Ave. 101 W. 125th St.
Trinity Corp. # 481 8th Ave., Suite 647, NYC 10001. Uses the trade name
of Small Essentials. Records with the New York State Division of
Corporations show company as inactive.
Tropical Spring of NY * 401 B 5th Ave., NY, NY 10016
True World Farms, Inc, * DBA Pine Island Aquaculture.
True World Foods, Inc. * Changed name to Solutant Corp. Corporation
records filed in Alaska indicate as of November 30, 2001 Company was
wholly owned subsidiary of True World Group, Inc.
True World Group, Inc. * 481 8th Ave. 212-268-1900 Name changed from
International Oceanic Enterprises, Inc.
True World Group Consulting * 481 8th Ave., New York, NY 10001 212-868-2222
True World Realty and Property Management, Inc. * 401 5th Ave., NYC 10036
Uni Vision, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 563 1320
Unification Church International * 4 W. 43rd St., NYC. This is a tax
paying holding company based in Falls Church, VA.
Unification Church World, 481 8th Ave., NYC 212 279 6766
United Materials Industries Inc., 46 09 54th Rd., Maspeth, NY
United Vision Group, Inc. * Ad in Unification News listed Hudson River
Inlay and Dimensions as part of the company. The ad mentions being part
of the excitement of an Inc. 500 company. This is most likely a
reference to a Han Corp. listing as the ninth fastest growing company in
the U.S. by Inc. Magazine. This may indicate a possible
parent/subsidiary relationship between the two companies.
United Vision Sales, Inc. * Ad in March 1994 Unification News indicated
the company was formed by a merger of Creative Designs and Original
World Products. NY Division of Corporations records indicate company now
uses the name of UV Sales, Inc.
Universal Artist Management, Inc. 401 5th Ave., 10018
Uniworld Sea Enterprises Inc. # No longer open.
UV Sales, Inc. * New name for United Vision Sales, Inc. which had
changed its name from Original World Products.
Vallsinvest, S.A. #
Vertizon, Inc., # 481 8th Ave., 10001; 212 714 1090
Woloji Properties, Inc. * Property holding company located in Tarrytown.
World Audio Visual Enterprises * WAVE 401 5th Ave., NY, NY.
World Mission Center, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212 947 1115.
World Ocean, Inc. * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001 212 967 8365.
World Research Institute for Science and Technology, Inc. * 38 38 9th
St., LIC, NY 11101, Phone 718 937 7955. This company is a subsidiary of
Unification Church International.

North Carolina:
Beautiful Flowers Co. * Charlotte
True World Foods, Inc. * 9521-D Lumley Road, Raleigh
Sekaino Shiawase of N.C., Inc. # Owns Little Tokyo restaurant in Cary

Ohio:
Back to Earth
Champs Elysees * Cleveland, Owned by Christian Bernard Sores
Energy for Life * Trade name filed in 1996 by Hsu & Company
Hsu & Company # Changed name to Hsu & Company – McNaughton Road, Inc.
Hsu & Company – Homer Road, Inc. *
Hsu & Company – Morse Road, Inc. *
Hsu & Company – Sawmill Road, Inc. *
Hsu Retreat Center, Inc. * Utica
Hsu Wholistic Health Systems, Inc. *
Il Hwa Ginseng Co. Cleveland
Organic Grocery
Panda Motors Corp. 4400 Dixie Hwy. Hamilton
Restaurant Japan * Columbus
Saeilo Machinery USA, Inc. * Cincinnati
Shinano, Inc. * Owns Akaihana Japanese Restaurant * Richmond Heights.
Whole Earth & Unity Inc. Cleveland

Oklahoma:
Tokyo Japanese Restaurant * 7516 N. Western Ave., Oklahoma City. Part of
the True World Group, Inc.

Oregon:
Blessed Family Association, Oregon * 2802 NE 21st Ave., Portland
Ikenohana Corp. * Owns Ikenohana Japanese Restaurant Beverton. Part of
True World Group, Inc.
The Computer Exchange * DBA for Gregory S. Bowman
True World Foods, Inc. of Seattle * 7911 NE 33rd Dr. #220, Portland
Women's Federation for World Peace, Inc. * The same address as the
Blessed Family Association.

Pennsylvania:
Christian Bernard Jewelers King of Prussia/Willow Grove
Il Hwa Ginseng Center King of Prussia Mall, Philadelphia
Tokyo Enterprises, Inc. * Owns Shiroi Hana Japanese Restaurant
Trans Ocean, Inc. * Seafood company in Philadelphia.
United World Enterprises Havertown

Rhode Island:
Japanese Restaurant Perry, Inc. * Owns Haruki Japanese Restaurant
Cranston. Part of the True World Group, Inc.

South Carolina:
Crown Prints * 2060 Pineview Drive, Spartanburg, SC 29307 Sells foil
prints online through www.foilprints.com.
Sakura Japanese Restaurant * Columbia - Part of the True World Group, Inc.

Tennessee:
Tennessee Tokyo Express, Inc. * Owns Benkay Japanese Restaurant
Nashville. Part of the True World Group, Inc.
True World Foods International, Inc. * Bartlett

Texas:
C F Han, Inc. # Changed name to Centem U.S., Inc. This company had owned
New Hope Farms in Carrizo Springs.
Continental Development Corp #
Decor Specialty, Inc. Richardson
Dehen, Inc. * Owns Ginza Japanese Restaurant in Houston.
Far East Corp.
Far East Seafood, Inc. * Houston
Han Corp. * Company had previously owned Crawford Farms and changed the
name to New Hope Farms in Carrizo Springs. They sold the farm in 1999.
Hana Sho Japanese Restaurant * Dallas - Part of the True World Group, Inc.
Happy Oriental Food, Inc. #
Horizon Galleries * 800 Belt Dr., NW, #200E, Houston.
Horizon Galleries * Both Horizon Galleries are owned by News World
Communications
Oriental Enterprise, Inc. * Owns Hana Sho restaurant.
Saeilo Machinery USA, Inc. - Dallas
Saeilo Motors TX, Inc. * 9150 Emnora, Suite A, Houston
Sakura Japanese Restaurant * Houston
Shinano Club * Dallas
Star of the Orient, Inc. * Houston
True World Foods, Inc. of Miami * 4008 Commerce St Ste 200c, Dallas, TX
75226
United Sea Enterprises * DBA for True World Foods, Inc. in Dallas
World Trends, Inc. #

Utah:
Sakura Restaurant Corp. * Owns Sakura Sushi Holiday.

Vermont:
Sakura of Japan, Inc. * Owns Sakura Japanese Restaurant Burlington. Part
of True World Group, Inc.

Virginia:
A Master Marine #
American Media Marketing, Inc. * Falls Church
American Star Recording Studio #
Beauregard Realty, Inc. * Company owns $2.2 million worth of vacant land
in Virginia.
Center for Spiritual Enlightenment *
Christian Bernard Jewelry Stores * Virginia Beach, Fair Oaks Mall and
Tysons Mall
Concept Communications * Owns 28% of cable TV network The Nostalgia Network.
Crown Communications Corp. * Owns Concept Communications Corp.
Crown Capital Corp. * Owns Crown Communications.
Deb's Deli Diner * Owned by church member Nathan Loew.

Dimensions * Trade Name for United Vision Sales Group. Cart at Tysons
Corner Center Mall that sells Magic Pens. Many of the kiosks or carts
found at malls are seasonal.
Doctor U.S. Pahk Heart Foundation *
East West Services, Inc. * Falls Church, owns www.WorldTribune.com
Exclusively Roses * Tysons Corner
Father's Fish Richmond
FutureRealm Productions * Richmond, Owned by Peter Brown
Gene's Grocery & Deli * Owned by Grace and Park Corp.
Global Image Associates # McLean Public relations firm no longer in
business.
Global Video Productions * 6400 N Seven Corners Place, Falls Church, VA
22042
Phone 703 237 7733 FAX 703 533 2946.
Grace & Park Corp. * Owns Property in the Washington, D.C. area.
Hana Enterprises, Inc. # Owns Yamano Hana Japanese Restaurant
Hana Enterprises, Inc. # Owns Niwano Hana Japanese Restaurant
Harvard Columbia Video, Inc. *
International Seafood Co. West End, Southampton Ave., Norfolk
International Video Services, Inc. #
International Oceanic Enterprise, Inc. * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls
Church, VA 22043
Kenmar Enterprises *
Kingsway L.P. * McLean real estate holding company owned by Bo Hi Pak
and family.
Machine Industries, Inc. * Owns an interest in Saeilo, Inc.
Modern Mailing Service #
National Hospitality Corporation * Wholly owned subsidiary of US
Property Development Corp. The company owns the Sheraton National Hotel
in Arlington.
New Wave Seafood, Inc. * Retail seafood outlet in Baileys Crossroads.
Northern Virginia Properties, Inc. * 6723 Whittier Ave. McLean
Northern Virginia Homes, Inc. * 8260 Greensboro Dr., McLean
One Up Enterprises, Inc. * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church 703 448 7333
Panda Motors Corp. * Project to build cars in China now on hold. Panda
Group Ltd.
Paragon Investment Properties, Inc. * Burke, VA.
Park Realty Corp. # McLean, Jonathan Park, son of Bo Hi Pak, is
president. This company is the sole general partner of Kingsway Limited
Partnership.
P.G. Arbor & Company * Trade name for Hudson River Inlay. Sold wooden
inlay pictures at Tysons Corner Center Mall during Christmas 1997.
PMC Partnership # McLean
Professional Resources, Inc. # Terminated corporation.
Route 7 Realty, Inc. * Real estate holding company. Owns large office
building at 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church.
Shiroi Hana, Inc. * Owns Shiroi Hana Richmond.
Stein & Associates * McLean
The Young Gruppe, Inc. *
Tele Color Studio * Changed name to Atlantic Video, Inc.
True Value Builders #
True World Group, Inc. * Norfolk
Unification Church International * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA
22043. Main holding company for Unification Movement closely associated
entities.
U.S. Foods, Inc. * Merged with U.S. Property Development Corp

U.S. Marine Corporation * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22043. UC
owns 83% of voting stock remaining 17% owned by One Up Enterprises at
this address.
U.S. Property Development Corp. * 150 S. Gordon St. Alexandria,
Virginia Business Development Company, Inc. #
Virginia Business Enterprises, Inc. * Holding company.
Virginia Japanese Restaurant, Inc. * Owns Hana Zushi Richmond. Part of
True World Group, Inc.
Virginia Operating Company, Inc. #
VP Enterprises #
World Daily News Co., Ltd. #

Washington:
Coastal Properties Management, Inc. * 2440 W. Commodore Way, Seattle, WA
98199.
Go 'N Joy Convenience Stores * Closed its stores after publicity over
liquor license investigation. Company activities carried on by New
Pacific Development Corp.
Hisago Japanese Restaurant * Seattle - Part of True World Group, Inc.
HWA Giant Clam, Inc. * DBA for Ocean Hope, Inc.
HWA Smokehouse, Inc. # Owned by Happy World America. Changed name to
Ocean Hope, Inc. on 4/4/89 and administratively dissolved by Secretary
of State on 3/25/91.
International Marine Farms # No current office in WA.
International Seafoods of Alaska, Inc. * Seattle
Koalas Roos & Kiwi * Three locations in Washington state.
L.T. Finance Corp. * Merged with Happy World U.S.A., Inc. on 07/19/89
with L.T. Finance Corp. as the surviving entity.
Merit Web Design *
Monumental Development Corp. #
New Hope Marine, Inc. * Seattle
New Pacific Development Corp. * 2220 Marine View Dr. #100 Des Moines, WA
98198. Trailer parks are owned by this real estate holding company.
Northwest Seafood Co., Inc.
Ocean Peace, Inc. *
Saeilo Machinery WA, Inc. * Renton, may no longer be in business.
Sanshin Restaurant Corp. * Owns Kohan Japanese Restaurant
Seattle Pictures * Shares P.O. Box with Merit Web Design
Shiroi Hana, Inc. * Seattle
Shining Ocean, Inc. * Seattle

Sunrise Seattle Corporation, Ltd. # Seattle, Changed name to True World
Foods, Inc. of Seattle on 05/04/99.
Sunrise Trading * Seattle
Sunrise Seafood Company * Seattle
True World Foods, Inc. of Seattle * Doing business as Sunrise Seafood
Company
True World Foods International, Inc. * 2440 W. Commodore Way, Seattle,
WA 98199
Wacom Technology Corporation * 1311 SE Cardinal Ct., Vancouver, WA
98683. The company is a wholly owned subsidiary of Japanese company
Wacom, Ltd. Wacom, Ltd is a subsidiary of Japanese company Happy World, Inc.

Washington, DC:
650 Massachusetts Ave. Associates, L.P. #
Atlantic Creative * A division of Atlantic Video, Inc.
Atlantic Video, Inc. * 650 Mass. Ave., NW
Barker International Associates, Inc. #
Baruch T.V. Group *
Christian Bernard Jewelers * Georgetown Park Mall
D.C. Holding Company, Inc. *
Deli Sun (delicatessen) #
Exclusively Roses * 1133 20th St., NW
Ginseng Trading Corp. #
Good Health Natural Foods * Health food store owned by Il Hwa American Corp.
Happy Mind, Inc. # Happy Mind Home Shoppers Club. Home shopping service
owned by Unification Church International.
Health, Beauty and Longevity, Inc. * 3600 New York Ave., Suite 360
Joe Badra, Inc. *
L.H. Baer, Ltd., Inc. # Washington, D.C.
Middle East Associates #
Monumental Construction & Moulding Co., 1512 14th St. NW 20024
Newslink, Inc. # Company is a subsidiary of Concept Communications Corp.
It has over one million dollars of liens against it in the District of
Columbia. This is a Delaware corporation. The state of Delaware has
revoked the company's charter.
NNI Acquisition Corporation * Corporate vehicle used to take Nostalgia
Network, Inc. private. This is no longer a public company and is not
required to file reports with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Nostalgia Network, Inc. * Cable network showing old movies. Controlled
through stock
ownership by Concept Communications, Inc and series of funding entities
associated with the Unification Movement.
PVI, Inc. * Formerly Pyramid Video, Inc.
RFR International #
Tropical Multimedia * DBA for Christopher McKeon
Unification Church a/k/a Korean Evangelical Association
Urban Grocery, LLC *
Washington Times Corp. * Owns newspaper
Washington Times Aviation, Inc. * 3600 New York Ave., NE, Suite 300, WDC
20002. Company owns a Bombardier, Inc. Turbojet. Model: BD-700-1A10 is a
jet seating 23. The aircraft registration number is N338TP. This plane
was registered with the FAA in the company name on 10/11/02.
Washington Independent News *
Washington Television Center L.P. * Owns the office building at 650
Massachusetts Ave., NW. This building has been assessed at $55,100,000.
The largest tenant in the building is the Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms Agency.
WTC Realty, Inc. * General partner of Washington Television Center L.P.

West Virginia:
Hana, Inc. * Owns Little Tokyo restaurant in Charleston. Sources report
the restaurant is closed.
Prospect Hall, Inc. * Real estate holding company.
Prospect Hall Shooting Club * Operates on property owned by New Hope
Farm, Inc.
New Hope Farm, Inc. * Company owns 1, 095 acres in Berkley and Jefferson
counties near the town or Middleway. Property is assessed at more than
$1,000,000. The Washington Times Corp. and News World Communications,
Inc jointly own New Hope Farm, Inc.

Wisconsin:
Kyoto, Inc. * Owns Ginza Japanese Restaurant Madison. Company is owned by
Shokuhin Development, Inc.

Wyoming:
Sakura Wyoming, Inc. * Owned Sakura Japanese Restaurant Cheyenne. May no
longer be open.



Canada:
Canadian Unity Freedom Foundation * (CUFF)
Clearstone Breeding Farms – Onterio elk breeding venture active in late
1980’s.
Family United Network * Sudbury, Onterio
Hanida Ginseng Cosmetics – Toronto
International Family Association – Active in the 1970’s.
Our Canada monthly newspaper
Rapkin's Products # Toronto
Rocky Neck of Canada, Inc. # Changed name to True World Foods, Inc. of
Canada
Saeilo Machinery (Canada) Inc. # Dissolved 1999
True Family Gifts * Sudbury, Onterio
True World Foods, Inc. of Canada * 268 Eddystone Ave., Toronto, ON M3N 1H7
True World Foods, Inc. of Canada * 2634 Sabourin, St. Laurent, QC H4S 1M2
True World Foods, Inc. of Canada * 12417 #2 Road, Unit 155, Richmond, BC
V7E 6H7
World Education College of Applied Theology * Winona, Ontario

For more, check:
www.extremistgroups.com
 
Old 16-12-2004, 01:29 PM   #13
K. Smith
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Default Re: albin 28 flush deck

LaBomba182 wrote:
>>Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>
>
>>"fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>
>>>I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
>>>yanmar?
>>>

>>
>>I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
>>rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true.
>>Let us know.

>
>
> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft
> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
> And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph
>
> Capt. Bill



Come on Capt. you????, not Chucky of course but ...... :-)

Approx 6-7 gph??? is this one of those Chucky help make a sale "approx"
gals?? or a standard US gal???

Best you get some references where Yanmar themselves have publicly made
claims anything like that, they haven't I can assure you they'd get well
sued, probably by Cat or Cummins etc:-). The best you'll find are vague
"testimonials" about this & that, never any proper numbers.

The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time,
everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out of
order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS to
remain uncorrected.

These engines are a converted Toyota Landcruiser diesel (hey great news
for Landcruiser drivers!!! you too need never buy fuel again:-)) & if
run continuously above about 250HP for more than a very short time will
drop their fuel consumption to nil:-) so you can forget all about the
mystical "top end burning" in gph terms for even 1 straight hour:-).

However even if 11gph were true it raises a much more difficult
question, fore it would mean these engines are only making about 180-190
HP flat out!!!; sad really when they're marketed as 315 hp diesels.

If that engine really is using say 7 USgal/hr it's probably not making
much more than 120HP so you now have a diesel powered 28 ft boat, what
4-5 ton???, "cruising" at 30 mph on 120HP??? & the same boat doing 40
mph on 190HP???? Curiouser & curiouser said Alice.

Be skeptical of the magazines they're the source of much false
information & those that then repeat it unquestioningly are only
demonstrating their own lack of experience.

Needless to say we even have one here who continues to write it even
though we've offered to run the numbers, so it follows it's just
marketing BS from BS'ers.

Oops almost forgot, have a merry christmas or hanukkah if that suits you:-)


K
 
Old 16-12-2004, 02:53 PM   #14
thunder
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Default Re: albin 28 flush deck

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:48:13 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


> Yes...True World Marine is a wholly owned subsidiary of one of Rev. Moon's
> operations. I first saw one of these boats some years ago at the Miami
> boat show, and was interested...and did a little checking.
>
> Here's some info you might find interesting:


I don't know, Harry, but isn't this just another flavor of the Rev. Jim
Melnyk?
 
Old 16-12-2004, 03:37 PM   #15
Harry Krause
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Default Re: albin 28 flush deck

K. Smith wrote:
> LaBomba182 wrote:
>
>>> Subject: Re: albin 28 flush deck
>>> From: "NOYB" noyb@noyb.com

>>
>>
>>
>>> "fishless" <raystrauss385@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost.ta lkaboutboats.com...
>>>
>>>> I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the
>>>> 315
>>>> yanmar?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a
>>> burn rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but
>>> amazing if true. Let us know.

>>
>>
>>
>> A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack
>> shaft
>> does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph. And 40 mph top end
>> burning 10 - 11 gph
>>
>> Capt. Bill

>
>
>
> Come on Capt. you????, not Chucky of course but ...... :-)
>
> Approx 6-7 gph??? is this one of those Chucky help make a sale
> "approx" gals?? or a standard US gal???
>
> Best you get some references where Yanmar themselves have publicly
> made claims anything like that, they haven't I can assure you they'd get
> well sued, probably by Cat or Cummins etc:-). The best you'll find are
> vague "testimonials" about this & that, never any proper numbers.
>
> The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time,
> everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out of
> order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS to
> remain uncorrected.



Actually, the inexperienced simpleton is you. Most of the boating
magazines that publish "testing results" know how to hook up and read a
fuel flow meter. And their writers actually have access to boats.

Unlike you.
 
 


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