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Old 23-06-2008, 10:07 AM   #1
DisneyDana
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Default Any new AP pass perks?

Hey gang, I haven't been around in a while, but the last time I was, I
remember WDW was taking away so many of the great perks for the AP passes.
Specifically the big resort discounts. What are the perks now-a-days? Any
good reason to perchase one? I remember a ton of people couldn't find a
reason to renew...myself included.

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Old 23-06-2008, 11:45 AM   #2
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Default Re: Any new AP pass perks?

The Annual Pass entitles you to unlimited admission with park hopping
privileges to the 4 Main Parks for 12 months with no blockout dates*.
You also get complimentary parking in the theme park lots as well as
the passholder benefits listed below on this page. Complimentary use
of WDW transportation system - monorails, ferryboats, and motor
coaches - is included. *Except activities/events separately priced.

The Premium Annual Pass entitles guests to unlimited admission* with
park hopping privileges with no blockout dates to the Magic Kingdom®
Park; Epcot®; the Disney-MGM Studios; Disney's Animal Kingdom"! Theme
Park; Disney Quest, Pleasure Island; Disney's water parks: Blizzard
Beach, Typhoon Lagoon, and Disney's Wide World of Sports"! complex, as
well as complimentary parking in the theme park lots and all the
passholder benefits listed below. Complimentary use of WDW
transportation system - monorails, ferryboats, and motor coaches - is
included.*Except activities/events separately priced.

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On Jun 22, 5:07*pm, "DisneyDana" <DisneyD...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Hey gang, I haven't been around in a while, but the last time I was, I
> remember WDW was taking away so many of the great perks for the AP passes..
> Specifically the big resort discounts. *What are the perks now-a-days? Any
> good reason to perchase one? I remember a ton of people couldn't find a
> reason to renew...myself included.
>
> --
> Dana


 
Old 24-06-2008, 05:54 AM   #3
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On Jun 22, 8:07*pm, "DisneyDana" <DisneyD...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Hey gang, I haven't been around in a while, but the last time I was, I
> remember WDW was taking away so many of the great perks for the AP passes..
> Specifically the big resort discounts. *What are the perks now-a-days? Any
> good reason to perchase one? I remember a ton of people couldn't find a
> reason to renew...myself included.


MouseSavers just recently posted the latest hotel discounts for August
and September. 22% off value resorts, 33% off moderates, 25% off
Beach Club, etc.

Plus all the usuals: Free Parking, 20% off tours, 20% off World of
Disney, 50% off mini-golf, ability to purchase DDE, ability to add DDP
without purchasing tickets, etc.

Paul Lalli
 
Old 24-06-2008, 06:08 AM   #4
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Default Re: Any new AP pass perks?

The current AP room discounts aren't a percentage, they are a flat
rate per night off based on resort type:

Values - $18 off
Moderates - $50 off
Deluxes - $81 off

They haven't been percentages for a few years.

-Joe

Paul Lalli wrote:
>
> MouseSavers just recently posted the latest hotel discounts for August
> and September. 22% off value resorts, 33% off moderates, 25% off
> Beach Club, etc.
> Paul Lalli

 
Old 25-06-2008, 12:16 AM   #5
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On Jun 23, 4:08*pm, Joe <joe.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The current AP room discounts aren't a percentage, they are a flat
> rate per night off based on resort type:
>
> Values - $18 off
> Moderates - $50 off
> Deluxes - $81 off
>
> They haven't been percentages for a few years.


Yes, I know. I manually computed the percentage, based on what the
rack rate is for each category for the appropriate season.

Paul Lalli
 
Old 25-06-2008, 01:19 AM   #6
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On Jun 24, 10:16*am, Paul Lalli <mri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 4:08*pm, Joe <joe.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The current AP room discounts aren't a percentage, they are a flat
> > rate per night off based on resort type:

>
> > Values - $18 off
> > Moderates - $50 off
> > Deluxes - $81 off

>
> > They haven't been percentages for a few years.

>
> Yes, I know. *I manually computed the percentage, based on what the
> rack rate is for each category for the appropriate season.
>
> Paul Lalli


Unless someone knew that, it would be highly mis-leading, especially
for the deluxes; ie. if they called expecting a percentage off and
only got a $81 off....especially with the more expensive resorts....

 
Old 25-06-2008, 02:32 AM   #7
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In article <78064e8c-2aec-4b5d-8bb3-eda57bea3342@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Paul Lalli <mritty@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> They haven't been percentages for a few years.

>
>Yes, I know. I manually computed the percentage, based on what the
>rack rate is for each category for the appropriate season.


Which rack rate? The deluxes vary wildly in their rack rates,
and even at the values and moderates, where the base rates
are the same within a given category, there are different
rates for different types of room in a given rate season.


Patty

 
Old 25-06-2008, 02:46 AM   #8
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On Jun 24, 12:32*pm, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> In article <78064e8c-2aec-4b5d-8bb3-eda57bea3...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups..com>,
> Paul Lalli *<mri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> They haven't been percentages for a few years.

>
> >Yes, I know. *I manually computed the percentage, based on what the
> >rack rate is for each category for the appropriate season.

>
> Which rack rate? The deluxes vary wildly in their rack rates,
> and even at the values and moderates, where the base rates
> are the same within a given category, there are different
> rates for different types of room in a given rate season.


Oh for the love of...

I sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been "confused" by my
doing a simple math equation. Cripes.

My calculations were based off of the standard rate for standard view
for value season for the specific category typed.

Really no need to be whipping into a frenzy about this, folks.

Paul Lalli
 
Old 25-06-2008, 04:00 AM   #9
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Paul Lalli wrote:
> On Jun 24, 12:32 pm, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
>> In article <78064e8c-2aec-4b5d-8bb3-eda57bea3...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>> Paul Lalli <mri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> They haven't been percentages for a few years.
>>> Yes, I know. I manually computed the percentage, based on what the
>>> rack rate is for each category for the appropriate season.

>> Which rack rate? The deluxes vary wildly in their rack rates,
>> and even at the values and moderates, where the base rates
>> are the same within a given category, there are different
>> rates for different types of room in a given rate season.

>
> Oh for the love of...
>
> I sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been "confused" by my
> doing a simple math equation. Cripes.
>
> My calculations were based off of the standard rate for standard view
> for value season for the specific category typed.
>
> Really no need to be whipping into a frenzy about this, folks.


Paul, I don't think anyone is really flaming you for your post, but it
is important to point out that the discount is not a percentage but a
flat dollar amount.

In the case of standard rooms at the value and moderates, your
percentage calculation is fine because the prices are the same
regardless of which resort you choose.

The problem comes in with the deluxe resorts. Generally, the YC, BC and
BW rooms are the same price, but the AKL and WL are less expensive. The
Contemporary and Poly are more expensive, and then you have the GF which
is even pricier. That was really Patty's point - if you based your
percentage on the AKL/WL rates, then you'd get a higher number than if
you based it on YC/BC/BW, but if you used the Poly or Contemporary,
you;d get a lower percentage and the lowest of all at the GF.

Personally, I miss the days of 40% AP discounts at the deluxe resorts.
It actually made sense to buy an AP for single week's vacation at those
prices!

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...
 
Old 25-06-2008, 04:38 AM   #10
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On Jun 24, 2:00*pm, Rudeney <rude...@mickeypics.com> wrote:
> Paul Lalli wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 12:32 pm, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >> In article <78064e8c-2aec-4b5d-8bb3-eda57bea3...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Paul Lalli *<mri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >>>> They haven't been percentages for a few years.
> >>> Yes, I know. *I manually computed the percentage, based on what the
> >>> rack rate is for each category for the appropriate season.
> >> Which rack rate? The deluxes vary wildly in their rack rates,
> >> and even at the values and moderates, where the base rates
> >> are the same within a given category, there are different
> >> rates for different types of room in a given rate season.

>
> > Oh for the love of...

>
> > I sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been "confused" by my
> > doing a simple math equation. *Cripes.

>
> > My calculations were based off of the standard rate for standard view
> > for value season for the specific category typed.

>
> > Really no need to be whipping into a frenzy about this, folks.

>
> Paul, I don't think anyone is really flaming you for your post, but it
> is important to point out that the discount is not a percentage but a
> flat dollar amount.
>
> In the case of standard rooms at the value and moderates, your
> percentage calculation is fine because the prices are the same
> regardless of which resort you choose.
>
> The problem comes in with the deluxe resorts. *Generally, the YC, BC and
> BW rooms are the same price, but the AKL and WL are less expensive. *The
> Contemporary and Poly are more expensive, and then you have the GF which
> is even pricier. * *That was really Patty's point - if you based your
> percentage on the AKL/WL rates, then you'd get a higher number than if
> you based it on YC/BC/BW, but if you used the Poly or Contemporary,
> you;d get a lower percentage and the lowest of all at the GF.
>
> Personally, I miss the days of 40% AP discounts at the deluxe resorts.
> It actually made sense to buy an AP for single week's vacation at those
> prices!
>
> --
>
> - RODNEY
>
> Next WDW Vacation?
> Who knows...


Paul, it wasn't a flame at all, just a correction for travelers
reading these threads.

When you are a travel agent and a client sees something like 33% off
of a moderate on this group, and they call you for a price, they
expect to get 33% off of a moderate - be it a standard room or water
view, weekday or weekend. Since weekends can be more expensive and
water view rooms are more expensive, the math won't work, and clients
gets mad - not at the info they saw on the 'net, but at the agent.
 
Old 25-06-2008, 07:27 AM   #11
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In article <g3rco5$s9o$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com> wrote:
>
>Paul, I don't think anyone is really flaming you for your post, but it
>is important to point out that the discount is not a percentage but a
>flat dollar amount.


Yeah, I wasn't trying to flame, just curious what the basis was
for the calculations.

>In the case of standard rooms at the value and moderates, your
>percentage calculation is fine because the prices are the same
>regardless of which resort you choose.


Yep, as long as you know which level of room is being discussed.
Standard view, as Paul indicated, makes perfect sense.

> That was really Patty's point - if you based your
>percentage on the AKL/WL rates, then you'd get a higher number than if
>you based it on YC/BC/BW, but if you used the Poly or Contemporary,
>you;d get a lower percentage and the lowest of all at the GF.


The deluxes are indeed confusing! So many different rates...

>Personally, I miss the days of 40% AP discounts at the deluxe resorts.
>It actually made sense to buy an AP for single week's vacation at those
>prices!


That time a few years ago when WDW announced new AP rates
on my birthday, and I immediately called and saved $700 on
a week at AKL--which more than paid for the necessary AP--
was a wonderful day! One can only hope that such days will
return sometime...


Patty

 
Old 25-06-2008, 08:04 AM   #12
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Paul Lalli wrote
>
>... I sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been "confused" by my
> doing a simple math equation...


Ummm, no offense Paul, but isn't there a "no math" rule on RADP? ;-)

(I've been a little out of touch here, but I could swear we had that rule
in place at one time. But perhaps I'm just showing my age here...)

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Old 25-06-2008, 08:29 AM   #13
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"Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d4c5c91-1fb3-4605-9580-6b996ff4fe7d@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 24, 12:32 pm, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> In article
> <78064e8c-2aec-4b5d-8bb3-eda57bea3...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Paul Lalli <mri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>

Oh for the love of...

I sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been "confused" by my
doing a simple math equation. Cripes.

My calculations were based off of the standard rate for standard view
for value season for the specific category typed.


Paul,

What base percentage was that based on ? Could it be that the matrix
multiply was skewed by the linear diffusion ? And where did you ever get the
idea that the summation of the verticies of the vector index was 42 ???

"Standard view" indeed - Next time please do your homework -

The 'other' Sonya


 
Old 25-06-2008, 11:12 PM   #14
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Bashful wrote:
> Paul Lalli wrote
>> ... I sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been "confused" by my
>> doing a simple math equation...

>
> Ummm, no offense Paul, but isn't there a "no math" rule on RADP? ;-)
>
> (I've been a little out of touch here, but I could swear we had that rule
> in place at one time. But perhaps I'm just showing my age here...)


Actually, Paul did his math *before* posting on RADP, so I think that is
acceptable. Besides, I believe the no-math rule really only applied to
Kenny.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...
 
Old 25-06-2008, 11:14 PM   #15
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Patty Winter wrote:
>
> That time a few years ago when WDW announced new AP rates
> on my birthday, and I immediately called and saved $700 on
> a week at AKL--which more than paid for the necessary AP--
> was a wonderful day! One can only hope that such days will
> return sometime...


Our biggest and best discount was at the GF. We were able to get a
standard room for $199/night, which was a 50% discount. It was August
2001 and thew place was empty. They had literally closed half the GF
due to lack of guests and the parks were also very empty.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...
 
 


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