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Old 23-06-2008, 11:45 AM   #1
Brian
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Default Saratoga Springs, Beach Club or elsewhere?

I've looked to see what is available for next month when we are going.
We've stayed at the Beach Club and liked it but we are going with our
22 year old daughter and would get two rooms. The three on the
monorail have no availability according to the website.

We've stayed at the Boardwalk Villas but they only have a junior suite
and the Beach Club Villas have nothing. Saratoga Springs has a 2
bedroom suite that sounds interesting but it doesn't show up that well
in evaluations.

Also, if we get a dining plan, do we get any priority in making
reservations? Our feeling is not to get it especially since we don't
want to be committed to a specific time and place every night. The
different dining plans seem confusing when reading the web site and
the guidebooks. It seems to be a lot more complicated now than the
last time we went. We had a plan that worked well for us but we
haven't been since the FastPass was adopted. We would often go in late
afternoon and evening when the crowds were less but i don't know if
that will work as well as it did before.

Another consideration is that I had a heart attack less than 4 months
ago and while I'm doing well, I'm not sure if I will have the same
endurance I used to especially in the heat. I did ask the cardiologist
if there was a problem with going on any rides and his reply was,
"Have fun."

We will be staying 4 nights at another hotel in Orlando first near
another attraction <G> and will probably spend 6 nights at WDW
although I may try to talk my wife into another night.

We're planning on going to AAA tomorrow.

Thanks for any advice.
 
Old 23-06-2008, 11:54 AM   #2
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On Jun 22, 9:45�pm, Brian <drmorrisnos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > We've stayed at the Boardwalk Villas but they only have a junior suite

> and the Beach Club Villas have nothing. Saratoga Springs has a 2
> bedroom suite that sounds interesting but it doesn't show up that well
> in evaluations.
>


There's no such thing as a junior suite at BW villas or any dvc
resort. They have studios, 1 br villas, 2br villas and some have 3br
grand villas. For a couple and an adult daughter you could do a 1br
villa and have daughter use the sleep sofa in the living room, or get
a 2br villa. The villas at Saratoga are very nice, and I can't
imagine why it wouldn't "show up that well in evaluations". I've
stayed there several times - the most recent being late April 2008 and
the next being in about 2 weeks.

At such short notice, you should just pick from what's available - and
the dvc resorts probably have the least availability as the economy
doesn't really affect those bookings.

The dining plan doesn't get you any priority, so you can rule out
eating at the most popular places that book months in advance. But,
there should be plenty to choose from if you don't mind eating mostly
outside the parks.

Sue/WDW1972
 
Old 24-06-2008, 01:07 AM   #3
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Brian wrote:
> I've looked to see what is available for next month when we are going.
> We've stayed at the Beach Club and liked it but we are going with our
> 22 year old daughter and would get two rooms. The three on the
> monorail have no availability according to the website.
>
> We've stayed at the Boardwalk Villas but they only have a junior suite
> and the Beach Club Villas have nothing. Saratoga Springs has a 2
> bedroom suite that sounds interesting but it doesn't show up that well
> in evaluations.


Do you specifically want to stay in a DVC room? If not, check for a
regular room at the YC. As for SSR, It's a very nice resort and close
(walking distance) to DD/PI which may be a plus if you intend to spend
time there.

> Also, if we get a dining plan, do we get any priority in making
> reservations?


No.

> Our feeling is not to get it especially since we don't
> want to be committed to a specific time and place every night.


Whether you buy DDP or not makes no difference in planning meals and
making reservations. Unfortunately for the guests, the DDP is packing
restaurants to the gills and many of the table-service venues are booked
months in advance with no accommodation for "stand-by" diners. I guess
in that respect, it may be better not to buy DDP so you have some
flexibility in case you want to eat off-property or not do a
table-service every day.

> The
> different dining plans seem confusing when reading the web site and
> the guidebooks.


It's really not. The basic DDP is $38 per night of stay and for each
night (not day!) you get a credit for one table service meal (entree,
dessert, non-alcohol beverage), one counter service meal (combo
meal/entree, non-alcohol beverage, dessert) and one snack (i.e. a single
non-alcohol beverage, popcorn, ice cream bar, etc. Each person in the
room must buy the same DDP package and thus you get credits for each
person. Once the credits are added to your room, you can use them any
way you want. For example, with a 5-night stay for two guests, you'd
get 10 table service credits, 10 counter-service credits, and 10 snack
credits and you can use them any way you want from the time you check-in
until the end of the day of your check-out (after which unused credits
expire). Some high-end restaurants, dinner shows, and room service
require two table-service credits per person. Tips are *NOT* included
and must (should) be paid by the guest when settling the check.

> It seems to be a lot more complicated now than the
> last time we went. We had a plan that worked well for us but we
> haven't been since the FastPass was adopted. We would often go in late
> afternoon and evening when the crowds were less but i don't know if
> that will work as well as it did before.


A lot of it depends upon which park has Extra Magic Hours that day and
whether that is morning or evening EMH. Just like the old Early Entry
or Surprise Mornings, that park tends to be the most crowded during the
day. So, unless you intend to be there early to enjoy the extra hours,
I'd avoid the EMH morning park. AS for the EMH evening park, if you do
want to stay out late,then you will want to take advantage of that.

As for general touring plans, there are some that many people swear by I
prefer to do things a bit more spontaneously. Some attractions do tend
to be very popular and can even run out of FP's before the afternoon.
Some of these include Soarin' and Test Track at Epcot. One thing to
keep in mind is to always check the time printed on your FP ticket to
see when you are eligible for another one. This is normally one minute
after the return time for that FP, but never more than two hours later
then when you got it. Sometimes, you can get one even sooner, so be
sure to check the time. Also, you will not be allowed to enter the
queue until you return time has been reached, but you can enter the
queue even after the return time has "expired". Basically, a FP is good
for the rest of the day.


> Another consideration is that I had a heart attack less than 4 months
> ago and while I'm doing well, I'm not sure if I will have the same
> endurance I used to especially in the heat. I did ask the cardiologist
> if there was a problem with going on any rides and his reply was,
> "Have fun."


Well, it sounds like you should do so!

> We will be staying 4 nights at another hotel in Orlando first near
> another attraction <G> and will probably spend 6 nights at WDW
> although I may try to talk my wife into another night.
>
> We're planning on going to AAA tomorrow.


Good luck and have fun!

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...
 
Old 24-06-2008, 01:59 AM   #4
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In article <g3oe86$ctd$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Rudeney says...
>
>Brian wrote:
>> I've looked to see what is available for next month when we are going.
>> We've stayed at the Beach Club and liked it but we are going with our
>> 22 year old daughter and would get two rooms. The three on the
>> monorail have no availability according to the website.
>>
>> We've stayed at the Boardwalk Villas but they only have a junior suite
>> and the Beach Club Villas have nothing. Saratoga Springs has a 2
>> bedroom suite that sounds interesting but it doesn't show up that well
>> in evaluations.

>
>Do you specifically want to stay in a DVC room? If not, check for a
>regular room at the YC. As for SSR, It's a very nice resort and close
>(walking distance) to DD/PI which may be a plus if you intend to spend
>time there.


I'm afraid I have to disagree on this - we've stayed at SS and absolutely love
it - we get a 2 BR condo - but in no way could we walk to DD/PI - well, we could
but it would be quite the jaunt. Some Bldgs are quite close and some are quite
far away. I wouldn't want to walk from our bldg. But I love this resort!

lenniemc



>
>> Also, if we get a dining plan, do we get any priority in making
>> reservations?

>
>No.
>
>> Our feeling is not to get it especially since we don't
>> want to be committed to a specific time and place every night.

>
>Whether you buy DDP or not makes no difference in planning meals and
>making reservations. Unfortunately for the guests, the DDP is packing
>restaurants to the gills and many of the table-service venues are booked
>months in advance with no accommodation for "stand-by" diners. I guess
>in that respect, it may be better not to buy DDP so you have some
>flexibility in case you want to eat off-property or not do a
>table-service every day.
>
>> The
>> different dining plans seem confusing when reading the web site and
>> the guidebooks.

>
>It's really not. The basic DDP is $38 per night of stay and for each
>night (not day!) you get a credit for one table service meal (entree,
>dessert, non-alcohol beverage), one counter service meal (combo
>meal/entree, non-alcohol beverage, dessert) and one snack (i.e. a single
>non-alcohol beverage, popcorn, ice cream bar, etc. Each person in the
>room must buy the same DDP package and thus you get credits for each
>person. Once the credits are added to your room, you can use them any
>way you want. For example, with a 5-night stay for two guests, you'd
>get 10 table service credits, 10 counter-service credits, and 10 snack
>credits and you can use them any way you want from the time you check-in
>until the end of the day of your check-out (after which unused credits
>expire). Some high-end restaurants, dinner shows, and room service
>require two table-service credits per person. Tips are *NOT* included
>and must (should) be paid by the guest when settling the check.
>
>> It seems to be a lot more complicated now than the
>> last time we went. We had a plan that worked well for us but we
>> haven't been since the FastPass was adopted. We would often go in late
>> afternoon and evening when the crowds were less but i don't know if
>> that will work as well as it did before.

>
>A lot of it depends upon which park has Extra Magic Hours that day and
>whether that is morning or evening EMH. Just like the old Early Entry
>or Surprise Mornings, that park tends to be the most crowded during the
>day. So, unless you intend to be there early to enjoy the extra hours,
>I'd avoid the EMH morning park. AS for the EMH evening park, if you do
>want to stay out late,then you will want to take advantage of that.
>
>As for general touring plans, there are some that many people swear by I
>prefer to do things a bit more spontaneously. Some attractions do tend
>to be very popular and can even run out of FP's before the afternoon.
>Some of these include Soarin' and Test Track at Epcot. One thing to
>keep in mind is to always check the time printed on your FP ticket to
>see when you are eligible for another one. This is normally one minute
>after the return time for that FP, but never more than two hours later
>then when you got it. Sometimes, you can get one even sooner, so be
>sure to check the time. Also, you will not be allowed to enter the
>queue until you return time has been reached, but you can enter the
>queue even after the return time has "expired". Basically, a FP is good
>for the rest of the day.
>
>
>> Another consideration is that I had a heart attack less than 4 months
>> ago and while I'm doing well, I'm not sure if I will have the same
>> endurance I used to especially in the heat. I did ask the cardiologist
>> if there was a problem with going on any rides and his reply was,
>> "Have fun."

>
>Well, it sounds like you should do so!
>
>> We will be staying 4 nights at another hotel in Orlando first near
>> another attraction <G> and will probably spend 6 nights at WDW
>> although I may try to talk my wife into another night.
>>
>> We're planning on going to AAA tomorrow.

>
>Good luck and have fun!
>


 
Old 24-06-2008, 10:14 AM   #5
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:54:21 -0700 (PDT), "Sue/WDW1972"
<wdw1972@aol.com> wrote:

>On Jun 22, 9:45?pm, Brian <drmorrisnos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > We've stayed at the Boardwalk Villas but they only have a junior suite

>> and the Beach Club Villas have nothing. Saratoga Springs has a 2
>> bedroom suite that sounds interesting but it doesn't show up that well
>> in evaluations.
>>

>
>There's no such thing as a junior suite at BW villas or any dvc
>resort. They have studios, 1 br villas, 2br villas and some have 3br
>grand villas. For a couple and an adult daughter you could do a 1br
>villa and have daughter use the sleep sofa in the living room, or get
>a 2br villa. The villas at Saratoga are very nice, and I can't
>imagine why it wouldn't "show up that well in evaluations". I've
>stayed there several times - the most recent being late April 2008 and
>the next being in about 2 weeks.


I was writing from memory about the terminology and we weren't looking
for studios so I was ignoring them.

What bothered me was than PassPorter only gave it 6/10 for quality.
>
>At such short notice, you should just pick from what's available - and
>the dvc resorts probably have the least availability as the economy
>doesn't really affect those bookings.


Saratoga Springs appears to be the only place with suites that's
available. We did book it. My wife particularly liked the washer/dryer
in the unit so we won't need to take as much.
>
>The dining plan doesn't get you any priority, so you can rule out
>eating at the most popular places that book months in advance. But,
>there should be plenty to choose from if you don't mind eating mostly
>outside the parks.
>
>Sue/WDW1972


We were just hoping to be able to get into some of the places we've
been to before in the parks.

 
Old 24-06-2008, 10:51 AM   #6
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:07:46 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
wrote:


>Do you specifically want to stay in a DVC room? If not, check for a
>regular room at the YC. As for SSR, It's a very nice resort and close
>(walking distance) to DD/PI which may be a plus if you intend to spend
>time there.


Not specifically but it's worked out that way. We debated getting two
rooms at the Beach Club but this will be somewhat cheaper and my wife
likes the idea of the washer/dryer and to some extent a kitchen.

>Whether you buy DDP or not makes no difference in planning meals and
>making reservations. Unfortunately for the guests, the DDP is packing
>restaurants to the gills and many of the table-service venues are booked
>months in advance with no accommodation for "stand-by" diners. I guess
>in that respect, it may be better not to buy DDP so you have some
>flexibility in case you want to eat off-property or not do a
>table-service every day.


I have a feeling we are going to want to be in the parks at least some
days for dinner. It sounds like we'll have to have something other
than a sit down dinner if we do. We are not morning people and would
rather stay up late than get up early.

>It's really not. The basic DDP is $38 per night of stay and for each
>night (not day!) you get a credit for one table service meal (entree,
>dessert, non-alcohol beverage), one counter service meal (combo
>meal/entree, non-alcohol beverage, dessert) and one snack (i.e. a single
>non-alcohol beverage, popcorn, ice cream bar, etc. Each person in the
>room must buy the same DDP package and thus you get credits for each
>person. Once the credits are added to your room, you can use them any
>way you want. For example, with a 5-night stay for two guests, you'd
>get 10 table service credits, 10 counter-service credits, and 10 snack
>credits and you can use them any way you want from the time you check-in
>until the end of the day of your check-out (after which unused credits
>expire). Some high-end restaurants, dinner shows, and room service
>require two table-service credits per person. Tips are *NOT* included
>and must (should) be paid by the guest when settling the check.


We didn't get it but may change our minds. I may try to see if we can
get any reservations for places we are interested in although I'm not
optimistic. We may even eat early in the room and go over later on
occasion.
>


>A lot of it depends upon which park has Extra Magic Hours that day and
>whether that is morning or evening EMH. Just like the old Early Entry
>or Surprise Mornings, that park tends to be the most crowded during the
>day. So, unless you intend to be there early to enjoy the extra hours,
>I'd avoid the EMH morning park. AS for the EMH evening park, if you do
>want to stay out late,then you will want to take advantage of that.
>
>As for general touring plans, there are some that many people swear by I
>prefer to do things a bit more spontaneously. Some attractions do tend
>to be very popular and can even run out of FP's before the afternoon.
>Some of these include Soarin' and Test Track at Epcot. One thing to
>keep in mind is to always check the time printed on your FP ticket to
>see when you are eligible for another one. This is normally one minute
>after the return time for that FP, but never more than two hours later
>then when you got it. Sometimes, you can get one even sooner, so be
>sure to check the time. Also, you will not be allowed to enter the
>queue until you return time has been reached, but you can enter the
>queue even after the return time has "expired". Basically, a FP is good
>for the rest of the day.


I read in one of the books that there may be more flexibility in
FastPass depending on where someone stays. Was that ever adopted?

>Well, it sounds like you should do so!


I plan to. <G> At one point I was concerned about getting on some
rides because of my weight but I've lost 55 lbs. in the last 4 months
so I should fit now. <G>

>Good luck and have fun!


Thank you. And my wife did go along with the extra day.

 
Old 24-06-2008, 10:55 AM   #7
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On 23 Jun 2008 08:59:49 -0700, lenniemc <lenniemc_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:


>I'm afraid I have to disagree on this - we've stayed at SS and absolutely love
>it - we get a 2 BR condo - but in no way could we walk to DD/PI - well, we could
>but it would be quite the jaunt. Some Bldgs are quite close and some are quite
>far away. I wouldn't want to walk from our bldg. But I love this resort!
>
>lenniemc


We'll have a car so we can always drive. I suspect if we are going to
parks, we may not want to walk a lot more although I will need to
exercise some in the fitness center.
 
Old 25-06-2008, 03:52 AM   #8
Jamie Brinkoeter
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"Brian" <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e1vt545n2jvevibmr4agialbg81fjqidhg@4ax.com...
>
>
> Also, if we get a dining plan, do we get any priority in making
> reservations? Our feeling is not to get it especially since we don't
> want to be committed to a specific time and place every night.


I've gone with and without the DP, and no DP works better for me, but you
still need to make ADRs for where you really want to eat.


>We had a plan that worked well for us but we
> haven't been since the FastPass was adopted. We would often go in late
> afternoon and evening when the crowds were less but i don't know if
> that will work as well as it did before.
>

If you go late in the day, FPs for the headliner attractions may well be
gone, and the lines will be outrageously long.


> Another consideration is that I had a heart attack less than 4 months
> ago and while I'm doing well, I'm not sure if I will have the same
> endurance I used to especially in the heat. I did ask the cardiologist
> if there was a problem with going on any rides and his reply was,
> "Have fun."
>

I went within six months of a heart attack, and the heat bothered me a lot
more than it did before, but that's just me.


Jamie


 
Old 25-06-2008, 03:57 AM   #9
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"Brian" <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> We are not morning people and would
> rather stay up late than get up early.
>

I'm not a morning person either at home, but at Disney it's definitely worth
the effort. Unless you're there early, especially in the summer, you can
plan on waiting in very long lines and the possibility of no FPs. E.g., the
new Toy Story Mania ride at MGM (I don't care what they call it now, it will
always be MGM to me). Lines after about 10am are a hour plus, and FPs are
gone by lunchtime. The other advantage to getting there at opening is that
you get an hour of relatively cooler temperatures, which is extremely
important to me.


Jamie


 
Old 25-06-2008, 04:19 AM   #10
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Brian wrote:
> On 23 Jun 2008 08:59:49 -0700, lenniemc <lenniemc_member@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm afraid I have to disagree on this - we've stayed at SS and absolutely love
>> it - we get a 2 BR condo - but in no way could we walk to DD/PI - well, we could
>> but it would be quite the jaunt. Some Bldgs are quite close and some are quite
>> far away. I wouldn't want to walk from our bldg. But I love this resort!
>>
>> lenniemc

>
> We'll have a car so we can always drive. I suspect if we are going to
> parks, we may not want to walk a lot more although I will need to
> exercise some in the fitness center.


It also depends on where in SSR you stay. Lennie's right, if you are
closer to the OKW end of SSR, then it could be a long walk. Still, we
made it once when we stayed at the old Fairway Villas many years ago and
it wasn't too bad - probably not as far as walking all the way from,
say, the Monorail platform, through Epcot and out the back to the Beach
Club.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...
 
Old 25-06-2008, 06:57 AM   #11
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"Brian" <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message >
> I have a feeling we are going to want to be in the parks at least some
> days for dinner. It sounds like we'll have to have something other
> than a sit down dinner if we do. We are not morning people and would
> rather stay up late than get up early.
>
> We didn't get it but may change our minds. I may try to see if we can
> get any reservations for places we are interested in although I'm not
> optimistic. We may even eat early in the room and go over later on
> occasion.
>>


My family will be at WDW the second week of September and we opted for the
DDP for the first time. We are also late-night rather than early morning
people, so our day is skewed that way. Even 100 days before our trip, I was
only able to get dinner times between 730 and 900 PM, but that works for us!
This will also be our first trip since my DH's heart attack and quad bypass
in March 2005. One of our first questions to his cardiologist was "When can
we go back to WDW?" The only stipulation is to avoid anything that pulls
high g-forces, so RockNRoller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and Mission:Space
are out. Our 10 year old son is now tall enough and willing to ride those,
so I still get an ear to scream into and a hand to hold onto!
Just curious, did your cardiologist put any other restrictions on you? My DH
has to do cardio at least 3 times a week, but with all the walking at WDW,
we'll probably do more walking than we do at the gym!
Michelle in Atlanta


 
Old 25-06-2008, 11:14 AM   #12
Brian
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:19:42 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
wrote:


>It also depends on where in SSR you stay. Lennie's right, if you are
>closer to the OKW end of SSR, then it could be a long walk. Still, we
>made it once when we stayed at the old Fairway Villas many years ago and
>it wasn't too bad - probably not as far as walking all the way from,
>say, the Monorail platform, through Epcot and out the back to the Beach
>Club.


My wife and I talked about that. We stayed a long time at what we are
pretty sure was the Fairway Villas. they did seem a little out of the
way.

We have done the walk from the monorail platform through Epcot to the
Beach Club. (or vice versa)
 
Old 25-06-2008, 11:30 AM   #13
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:57:09 -0500, "Michelle in Atlanta" <me@you.com>
wrote:


>My family will be at WDW the second week of September and we opted for the
>DDP for the first time. We are also late-night rather than early morning
>people, so our day is skewed that way. Even 100 days before our trip, I was
>only able to get dinner times between 730 and 900 PM, but that works for us!
>This will also be our first trip since my DH's heart attack and quad bypass
>in March 2005. One of our first questions to his cardiologist was "When can
>we go back to WDW?" The only stipulation is to avoid anything that pulls
>high g-forces, so RockNRoller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and Mission:Space
>are out. Our 10 year old son is now tall enough and willing to ride those,
>so I still get an ear to scream into and a hand to hold onto!
>Just curious, did your cardiologist put any other restrictions on you? My DH
>has to do cardio at least 3 times a week, but with all the walking at WDW,
>we'll probably do more walking than we do at the gym!
>Michelle in Atlanta
>


I didn't think to ask him last week when I saw him after the nuclear
stress test and echocardiogram. I called the next day and when he
returned the call, I wasn't home and my wife talked to him. But he
didn't have any restrictions. Actually I have never really had any
restrictions except for not lifting over 10 lbs. the first week after
I got out of the hospital.

He is big on doing cardio.

The problem with doing the walking at WDW is that it won't be fast
enough or at enough of an incline. I'm now doing 1.75 miles on a
treadmill in 30 minutes and he wants me to get up to 8 degrees but my
knees and back are complaining.

Unfortunately for a number of reasons we couldn't make plans until
yesterday and there still is a very small chance there could be a
problem with the whole trip. I'm planning to call tomorrow and see if
there is anything available for reservations.

I probably should know this but what is DH?

 
Old 25-06-2008, 01:07 PM   #14
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"Brian" <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> The problem with doing the walking at WDW is that it won't be fast
> enough or at enough of an incline. I'm now doing 1.75 miles on a
> treadmill in 30 minutes and he wants me to get up to 8 degrees but my
> knees and back are complaining.


Yep, we usually put in some time on the treadmill or elliptical at the
resort fitness center for just that reason! About the lifting you
mentioned...my husband's preferred exercise is powerlifting, and after 3
years he is back into heavy lifting territory. I can remember when all he
was allowed to bench press was a wooden stick!

> I probably should know this but what is DH?


Usenet shorthand for "Dear Husband"...DS=Dear Son, DD=Dear Daughter, etc...I
have no idea how these terms originated, and I don't use "dear" in real life
when talking to my husband, unless it is dripping in sarcasm!
Michelle in Atlanta


 
Old 25-06-2008, 11:26 PM   #15
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Brian wrote:
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> My wife and I talked about that. We stayed a long time at what we are
> pretty sure was the Fairway Villas. they did seem a little out of the
> way.


See if this looks like where you stayed:

http://mickeypics.com/disney99/villas/index.html

The Fairway Villas (and the Grand Vista Homes) were on the northwest end
of the Disney Institute Complex. If you look on a map, you'll see
Fairway Drive is still there:

http://tinyurl.com/6fh7no

Of course this is now SSR. If you look around where Union Ave is in SSR,
that's where the old Townhomes were. You can see that it's a fairly
short walk from where the FWV's were to DD/West Side.

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