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25-06-2008, 05:09 AM
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Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
getting older all the time. I am about to turn 53 and was about to
turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. The wildest one I rode at that
time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VA
http://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx . I had no
problems. I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. I have
never smoked. I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
on average. I am also male.
I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Peter.
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25-06-2008, 05:28 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
PeterOut <MajorSetback@excite.com> writes:
> I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms.
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Don't trust USENET for medical advice.
Talk, face-to-face, with a doctor instead; preferably one that knows you.
Eric
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25-06-2008, 05:59 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
WHAT A WAY TO GO!!!
"PeterOut" <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote in message
news:18684224-35b1-4dad-96af-b26c6dbd7761@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
> ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
> getting older all the time. I am about to turn 53 and was about to
> turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. The wildest one I rode at that
> time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VA
> http://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx . I had no
> problems. I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. I have
> never smoked. I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
> the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
> on average. I am also male.
>
> I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
> cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
> Peter.
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25-06-2008, 06:43 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
On Jun 24, 3:09�pm, PeterOut <MajorSetb...@excite.com> wrote:
> I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. �I have
> ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
> getting older all the time. �I am about to turn 53 and was about to
> turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. �The wildest one I rode at that
> time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VAhttp://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx. �I had no
> problems. �I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. �I have
> never smoked. �I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varieswith
> the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
> on average. �I am also male.
>
> I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
> cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
> Peter.
Roller Coasters DO NOT cause cerebral aneurysms. However, they can
cause one to burst, so can running, walking, dancing, boinking and any
other activity that makes your body move. You can die sitting on a
park bench, or laying on your sofa.
The more healthy you are, the less chance you'll die from any
activity. If you follow MANY of the recent deaths at Disney World, you
find that literally ALL of them died from a pre-existing condition, or
a condition that should have stopped them from riding in the first
place.
So, look after yourself, do the right thing, and ride to your hearts
content.
And by the way, the best way to die on a coaster is to ignore the
rules and act stupid and do something dumb.
SAM
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25-06-2008, 07:00 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
In rec.roller-coaster PeterOut <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:
: I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
: roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
: ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
: getting older all the time. I am about to turn 53 and was about to
: turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. The wildest one I rode at that
: time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VA
: http://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx . I had no
: problems. I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. I have
: never smoked. I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
: the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
: on average. I am also male.
:
: I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
: cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
:
: Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
: Peter.
First advice is to do as Eric said and consult a medical professional if
you are looking for medical advice. That's the most obvious bit.
Second, it just so happens that there have been a number of studies
performed in recent years which investigate the mechanisms of injury on
roller coasters, in particular brain injuries and other head and neck
injuries. Many of these studies are available online; whether they are
available or not, summaries are available courtesy of saferparks.org:
http://www.saferparks.org/safety/dy...ch_articles.php
A few years ago, there was a lot of talk about placing limits on the
dynamic forces generated by amusement rides and this talk generated a
lot of research papers generally funded by one side of the argument or
the other. The universal conclusion of all the reports was that the
dynamic forces generated by even the wildest roller coasters is
generally below the injury thresholds that the researchers were
concerned about. The result is that there is now a considerable amount
of data that suggests that dynamic force limits are really not
necessary, or at least that the current dynamic standards employed by
designers are well within safe tolerance levels for most riders.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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25-06-2008, 09:42 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
You are more likely to die in a car crash on the way to the park. We
spend more time worrying about extremely rare, but NEWSWORTHY things
like airplane crashes and amusement park deaths and ignore that the
fact that things you do everyday are more likely to kill you. Face it,
nobody gets out of here alive, have fun and stop worrying!
Rick
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25-06-2008, 11:16 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
In article <18684224-35b1-4dad-96af-b26c6dbd7761@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
PeterOut <MajorSetback@excite.com> wrote:
>I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
>roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
There was a woman in her 80s at the CoasterCon and she rode everything.
Even Superman flying coaster. I'm 46 and I'm not dead yet(though
Ninja at SF Georgia almost broke my neck - TAER IT DOWN!). Might as well
enjoy your death.
--
vince
/***** Visit the Home of the Rancid Tofu Experience *****/
/***** http://www.garageband.com/artist/rancidtofu *****/
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25-06-2008, 11:59 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
To die doing something you love is the best way you can go....
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25-06-2008, 10:44 PM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
On Jun 24, 9:16 pm, vi...@eris.io.com (vince) wrote:
> In article <18684224-35b1-4dad-96af-b26c6dbd7...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
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> PeterOut <MajorSetb...@excite.com> wrote:
> >I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> >roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
>
> There was a woman in her 80s at the CoasterCon and she rode everything.
> Even Superman flying coaster. I'm 46 and I'm not dead yet(though
> Ninja at SF Georgia almost broke my neck - TAER IT DOWN!). Might as well
> enjoy your death.
> --
> vince
> /***** Visit the Home of the Rancid Tofu Experience *****/
> /*****http://www.garageband.com/artist/rancidtofu *****/
Depends on the coasters.
A woman died on Hulk at IOA, and another on Goliath at SFMM.
http://www.injuryboard.com/national...?googleid=25156
That's why they nerfed Goliath to nothing at the mid brake, so it
would go slower through the final helix.
The helix (big circle) is what causes the blackout.
A few coasters that cause this feeling to me are
Goliath (SFMM), Titan (SFoT), Deuling Dragons (IOA), Kumba (BGT).
A horizontal (flat) helix to end the ride does it.
I'm sure other will chime in with other rides. I recently visited
SFoT and rode Titan. It didn't seem to be as nerfed as Goliath. In
the final helix, my eye sight went funny.
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26-06-2008, 01:25 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
On Jun 25, 8:44*am, nogodforme <nogodfor...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> I'm sure other will chime in with other rides. * *I recently visited
> SFoT and rode Titan. *It didn't seem to be as nerfed as Goliath. * In
> the final helix, my eye sight went funny.
Rob, you mixing unleaded with your gin again?
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26-06-2008, 02:16 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
"Mark Rosenzweig" <stoneonta@aol.com> wrote in message
news:aa2d031d-4c96-4a69-ab13-875a1cf597d7@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>On Jun 25, 8:44 am, nogodforme <nogodfor...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> I'm sure other will chime in with other rides. I recently visited
>> SFoT and rode Titan. It didn't seem to be as nerfed as Goliath. In
>> the final helix, my eye sight went funny.
>
>Rob, you mixing unleaded with your gin again?
E85. It has a crisp aromatic quality, not normally found in regular
unleaded.
--
Keith Hopkins
susskins@sssssssssgmail.ssssssssscom
[clear up the hissing to email]
"Excuse me, sir, but you appear to be sitting
on my gown. Would you be so kind as to move?"
Mark McKenzie
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26-06-2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
"PeterOut" wrote :
> I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
> ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
> getting older all the time. I am about to turn 53 and was about to
> turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. The wildest one I rode at that
> time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VA
> http://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx . I had no
> problems. I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. I have
> never smoked. I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
> the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
> on average. I am also male.
>
> I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
> cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
> Peter.
Bitch, please!
I have a much greater chance of suffering an aneurysm just from reading
Rastus' stupid effin posts here on RRC
Look at people like Lucy White or Marie Miller, who rode roller coasters
well into their 90s without issue.
-b
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26-06-2008, 02:55 PM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
PeterOut wrote:
> I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
> ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
> getting older all the time. I am about to turn 53 and was about to
> turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. The wildest one I rode at that
> time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VA
> http://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx . I had no
> problems. I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. I have
> never smoked. I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
> the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
> on average. I am also male.
>
> I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
> cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
> Peter.
My father is 79. Last year, he rode all the coasters at Kennywood,
including Phantom's Revenge.
I wouldn't worry yourself too much.
Aynthem
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26-06-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
Aynthem wrote:
> PeterOut wrote:
> > I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
> > roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. I have
> > ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
> > getting older all the time. I am about to turn 53 and was about to
> > turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. The wildest one I rode at that
> > time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VA
> > http://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx . I had no
> > problems. I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. I have
> > never smoked. I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
> > the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
> > on average. I am also male.
> >
> > I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
> > cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
> > Peter.
>
> My father is 79. Last year, he rode all the coasters at Kennywood,
> including Phantom's Revenge.
>
> I wouldn't worry yourself too much.
Would not worry at all.
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about
itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." -- LORD Jesus Christ
(Matthew 6:34)
Amen.
"Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life ?" -- LORD
Jesus Christ (Luke 12:25)
None of us, dear LORD.
And, so our responsibility is simply to make sure that we are doing
what You desire for us to do.
This is our sole purpose for our lives here in this world.
<><
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
.... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....91e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....2aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier...
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....28be9f9918d825?
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26-06-2008, 08:48 PM
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Re: Aneurysms and Roller Coasters
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:43:04 -0700 (PDT), steelforce
<steelforce@aol.com> wrote:
>On Jun 24, 3:09?pm, PeterOut <MajorSetb...@excite.com> wrote:
>> I have heard (verbally) that people over 40 should should not ride
>> roller coasters because of the risk of cerebral aneurysms. ?I have
>> ridden a number of coasters since the age of 40 but, like everyone, am
>> getting older all the time. ?I am about to turn 53 and was about to
>> turn 51 last time I rode a coaster. ?The wildest one I rode at that
>> time was the Alpengeist at Busch Gardens in VAhttp://www.buschgardens.com/bgw/ar_alpengeist.aspx. ?I had no
>> problems. ?I was wondering if I should stop riding coasters. ?I have
>> never smoked. ?I think my blood pressure is around 120/80 (varies with
>> the operator) and I drink a glass or two of alcoholic beverage a week
>> on average. ?I am also male.
>>
>> I do understand that coasters do not actually cause aneurysms but may
>> cause a symptomless, existing aneurysm to rupture.
>>
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
>> Peter.
>
>Roller Coasters DO NOT cause cerebral aneurysms. However, they can
>cause one to burst, so can running, walking, dancing, boinking and any
>other activity that makes your body move. You can die sitting on a
>park bench, or laying on your sofa.
>
>The more healthy you are, the less chance you'll die from any
>activity. If you follow MANY of the recent deaths at Disney World, you
>find that literally ALL of them died from a pre-existing condition, or
>a condition that should have stopped them from riding in the first
>place.
>
>So, look after yourself, do the right thing, and ride to your hearts
>content.
>
>And by the way, the best way to die on a coaster is to ignore the
>rules and act stupid and do something dumb.
>
>SAM
SAM is right.
If you are concerned, talk to your own physician.
Otherwise, restricting activities out of fear that you might have
diseases that were never diagnosed, and you have no risk factors for
such as a family history, may just leave you agorophobic and a
hypochondriac.
Yes, if an aneurysm is about to go, any activity may hasten it. The
major warning sign will be the sudden onset of the worst headache of
your life.
Regards,
David
Disclaimer: The above is for informational purposes only. It implies
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