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Old 11-04-2004, 07:43 PM   #1
barry martin
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Default Bath tub trap leaks

Stan:

S > I, as a renter, live in a very old house. When some inches of water
S > are in the bath tub, leaking is occurring probably or surely from the
S > trap under the tub and right by the tub drain. [One can see this trap
S > from the pipe access-work area. The trap - a tank-like thing- is
S > smaller in size than a coffee can.]

I agree with the others saying not to do your own plumbing work on
rental property. It is the responsibility of the landlord.
Unfortunately for you he is being cheap, causing you inconvenience
(water dripping). You will sort of get the last laugh because the
longer he waits to do the repair the more damage is being done. I
would suggest to report in writing (and keeping a copy) the leak. Do
not list you have made any attempts to remove the cap as this could be
turned around to make it appear you caused the leakage. You could
also state you verbally reported the leak on/about such-and-such date.

The use of a container of some sort to catch the leak is a good idea
-- at least will protect your table.

One concern I have is "when some inches of water are in the bath tub,
leaking is occurring". Is this when the drain is closed or due to
standing water (slow drain)? If when the drain is closed there is
probably another problem. If a slow drain the problem is probably due
to a clog after the trap (water is backing up into the trap, backing
into the tub). I would probably use a plunger to clear the clog (wet
rag around the tub's overflow).

BTW, this leakage at the trap has taken years to occur. The trap at
my parent's place was installed up-side down -- yes, the cover was at
the bottom! It sometimes dripped into the sink in the basement. Know
they replaced the trap when they remodeled.


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Old 11-04-2004, 07:44 PM   #2
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rmoderator@rime.org (barry martin) wrote in message news:<1452191823.8784.8.9010100.1125373992.RIMEGateQWK@M oonDog.BBS>...
> Stan:
>
> S > I, as a renter, live in a very old house.
>


> One concern I have is "when some inches of water are in the bath tub,
> leaking is occurring". Is this when the drain is closed or due to
> standing water (slow drain)?


I think it's just a slow drain. I very rarely take a bath (just
shower), but two Fridays ago I took a bath after putting in a new
old-fashioned type tub plug. After draining the tub and going
downstairs, I found the kitchen table just flooded with water! This
much water on the table had never happened before though it was
certainly due to the bath I took. [And I didn't get any water on the
floor by the tub.]

> If when the drain is closed there is
> probably another problem. If a slow drain the problem is probably due
> to a clog after the trap (water is backing up into the trap, backing
> into the tub). I would probably use a plunger to clear the clog (wet
> rag around the tub's overflow).


I'll try the plunger. [I know that nasty looking black crap and hair
have come up into the standing water when I've done plunging before.
The outflow from the tub is improved after plunging.]


Stan
 
Old 11-04-2004, 07:44 PM   #3
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>
>
> I'll try the plunger. [I know that nasty looking black crap and hair
> have come up into the standing water when I've done plunging before.
> The outflow from the tub is improved after plunging.]
>


Out of curiosity, are you sure that the tub overflow is actually connected?
We've heard cases here before where only the drain itself was
hooked up.

 
Old 11-04-2004, 07:45 PM   #4
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Default Re: Bath tub trap leaks

Hi Stan!

S > > S > I, as a renter, live in a very old house.
S > > One concern I have is "when some inches of water are in the bath tub,
S > > leaking is occurring". Is this when the drain is closed or due to
S > > standing water (slow drain)?
S >
S > I think it's just a slow drain. I very rarely take a bath (just

Euwwww! <ggg>

S > shower), but two Fridays ago I took a bath after putting in a new

(Whew!) <g>

S > old-fashioned type tub plug. After draining the tub and going
S > downstairs, I found the kitchen table just flooded with water! This
S > much water on the table had never happened before though it was
S > certainly due to the bath I took. [And I didn't get any water on the
S > floor by the tub.]

Sorry - couldn't resist the silly comments! What I'm thinking is
under normal circumstances -- taking a shower -- the drainpipe is
capable of draining off the shower water. When you took the bath
there was a lot more water coming through the drainpipe, which backed
up somewhat due to a clog and exited through the rusted holes in the
cleanout (and possibly elsewhere).

Might need to fill the tub some then use a flashlight to note the
leaks. Be sure to check the drain hole at the bottom of the tub and
any soldered joints. The pipe itself can develop leaks
(perforations).


S > > If when the drain is closed there is
S > > probably another problem. If a slow drain the problem is probably due
S > > to a clog after the trap (water is backing up into the trap, backing
S > > into the tub). I would probably use a plunger to clear the clog (wet
S > > rag around the tub's overflow).
S >
S > I'll try the plunger. [I know that nasty looking black crap and hair
S > have come up into the standing water when I've done plunging before.
S > The outflow from the tub is improved after plunging.]

Also try running HOT water after the plunging. ...BTW, don't forget
to put a bucket on your kitchen table to catch the drips!

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Old 11-04-2004, 07:45 PM   #5
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"default@uri.edu" <default@uri.edu> wrote in message news:<4074286B.21902820@uri.edu>...


> Out of curiosity, are you sure that the tub overflow is actually connected?
> We've heard cases here before where only the drain itself was
> hooked up.


Yes, the overflow is connnected to the drain.

Two days ago I called the housing inspector in my city. He came over
yesterday and said he's ordering the landlord to fix this problem.


Stan
 
Old 11-04-2004, 07:46 PM   #6
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Default Re: Bath tub trap leaks

Hi Stan!

S > Two days ago I called the housing inspector in my city. He came over
S > yesterday and said he's ordering the landlord to fix this problem.

That'll fix the ol' Tight-wad! (So how's looking for the new place
going now that you've been kicked out? <gg>)

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